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modo
15-09-2008, 11:47 AM
It was a great shame to see so many dead barra floating at Monduran dam on the weekend. So many theries on to why. We counted 10 over 2 day's and had spoke to 2 other ausfisher's saying they had counted 20. All metre plus girls mother nature what are you going to do. :'( And they were the only barra we encounted the whole weekend.

slyman
15-09-2008, 12:30 PM
We saw 3 dead fish, two floaters and one that someone had pulled up the bank out of the water.

Obi _ Wan
15-09-2008, 02:36 PM
It's a real shame that mother nature has produced a couple of cold winters and barra don't like really cold water.

When is this global warming going to cut in???????? last summer was also colder than usual, what's going on???

I fished at Awoonga last Monday 8th througfh to Thursday 11th Sept. and i can asure you that there are plenty of dead barra there as well, the boys reckon 500 plus, mostly big fish. Nothing we can do about it but its still a bloody shame to lose them like that.

Cheers,
John.

modo
15-09-2008, 04:10 PM
I wonder if the greens are going to blame us for this. :-/

snatch
15-09-2008, 04:20 PM
I wonder if the greens are going to blame us for this. :-/

Why would they? Catchment Barra are introduced so of little interest to the greens.

modo
15-09-2008, 08:04 PM
Well we have heard that they are very interested in inpoundment closures and may be a rumour.

A_DIFF_PERSPECTIVE
15-09-2008, 08:39 PM
Yes, it seems a shame to see any animal die, but it is part of the cycle of life in impoundments where fish are landlocked and cannot escape. Older, bigger fish are possibly weaker and do not tolerate those conditions like smaller barramundi. Too see a bundle of dead fish on the bank may seem bad news, but to then look back on the sounder screen and count live ones by the dozens puts light back on the subject of the losses posing no great concern to stocks. The quality barra from 100-118cm caught in Awoonga recently highlights that the deaths are a small portion of what exists. The day we see 10,000 dead fish on the bank might be a day of concern.
Cheers,
Johnny

1337
16-09-2008, 09:08 AM
So how bad is it really lads at Mondy and Awoonga?

500 plus is sad to see but from the reports, Mondy hasn't been affected that badly < 100 ?

modo
16-09-2008, 10:53 AM
I was told it isn't as bad as last year but these dead fish will never make someone happy again.

snatch
16-09-2008, 11:40 AM
Well we have heard that they are very interested in inpoundment closures and may be a rumour.

We? Please explain. When it comes to fisheries in this country, the greens are not the enemy. They have led the push to get the Murray back in shape. They saved the Franklin river.

They are leading the fight to stop dredging and subsequent die off of sea grass in Port Philip Bay. Which of course has the flow on effect of numbers of King George Whiting dieing back.

They have pushed for best practice on farms to prevent nutrient runoff from killing our reefs and ultimately the associated fishery. It may well be the very cause of your Barra catchment problem.

I think you are ill informed.

woodsy76
16-09-2008, 05:37 PM
we were talking to two blokes up the top of the dam on sat morn.they said they found a big barra floating and threw the mat on it over 1.3m long, we went and had a look at it out of curiosity what a shame we would have probably seen 25 - 30 floaters all over the dam . a real shame indeed. woodsy

shayned
17-09-2008, 01:23 PM
Well we have heard that they are very interested in inpoundment closures and may be a rumour.

Keep an eye out for new government policy on impoundment access before the end of the year.

black_sheep
17-09-2008, 02:15 PM
Would be interested to see what proposed changes are being looked at.

As modo states, these impoundments are specifically stocked for fishermen. There are some impoundments that are stocked and/or hold reminant populations of 'endangered' fish like Mary River Cod. Closures through breeding season would make some sense but not for a barra/bass fishery were fish can't breed. Really can't see the point of a closure in any of our barra fisheries as they don't hold endangered fish and there would be alot of lost revenue to both the govt and local business's.

Will keep an eye out for new legislation.

As modo said, why would fisheries be looking at restrictions on something that has no negative impact on our fishery - if anything, it takes the pressure off our wild fishery. Makes no sense to do this but don't doubt you boys for a minute. SEQWater would be more likely to impose closure rather then fisheries.

snatch
17-09-2008, 02:30 PM
Which has absolutely nothing to do with the greens. They are government bodies. They closed Peter Faust Dam to boating a while back due to Mimosa pigra (a noxious weed).

ozbee
17-09-2008, 02:33 PM
the greens behind the stopping of red claw impoundments for 1

modo
17-09-2008, 04:33 PM
The greens are pulling the Governments strings when it comes to closures please quote me if I'm wrong. But every fishing magazine in the country points the finger at the greens for the closures. . We have spent countless hours going to fishing closure meetings and listened to the dribble about how it won't affect any fishers or business, but it does and it will. When asked about bag and size limits I've been told it doesn't work and only closures are the answer. But I can't remember a better Flathead or snapper seasons in the past if it was not for these methods. But this is only my opinion.

rod harrison
17-09-2008, 04:51 PM
Sorry, but the greens are anti-angling, anti-shooting, anti-poofer and lesbo jokes (too close to home), anti-anything not politically correct or which doesn't suit their loony left agenda.

The tragedy for the country is that at the far right of our polarised politics we have the likes of that hayseed senator, Barney Joyce. His way to Canberra was paid by irrigators like Cubbie Station.

The Nationals have a platform that's basically shoot, root, and electrocute. But have a lot to answer for over what's happened to the Murray Darling. Their cotton pickin' fingers are still poking around the pie that's all that water that floods down to fill Lake Ayre.

Steve B
17-09-2008, 04:52 PM
we were talking to two blokes up the top of the dam on sat morn.they said they found a big barra floating and threw the mat on it over 1.3m long, we went and had a look at it out of curiosity what a shame we would have probably seen 25 - 30 floaters all over the dam . a real shame indeed. woodsy

Yeah I agree Woodsy, I have seen about that many over the past three week. I hate to see dead fish too. It happens..sad but true. Thankfully it wasnt as bad as last year, or as bad as some other dams. MASA has put about 50000 in this winter just gone. With a survival rate of about 30% thats 15000 + that should be 30cm by now.....top of the food chain. The bait fish is phenominal at the moment, so they will grow at a fast rate..give it a few years and Monduran will still be awesome. Natural attrition is a natural thing.

cheers steve

snatch
17-09-2008, 08:25 PM
The greens are pulling the Governments strings when it comes to closures please quote me I'm wrong. But every fishing magazine in the country points the finger at the greens for the closures. . We have spent countless hours going to fishing closure meetings and listened to the dribble about how it won't affect any fishers or buisness' but it does and it will. When asked about bag and size limits I've been told it doesn't work and only closures are the answer. But I can't remember a better flathead or snapper seasons in the past if it was not for these methods. But this is only my oppinion.


The greens have absolutely nothing to do with catchment closures. Nothing. Zip. Nil. Catchment closures are most often due to water quality issues or pest control. The DPI is behind them.

The reef closures in QLD were done by GBRMPA. Another government body.

The greens will advise certainly (that is their role) , but after advisement government bodies are employed to make the decisions.

I witnessed a massive reduction in snapper catches in Port Philip bay many years ago after the liberal government went against the "advice" of the greens and reopened the bay to scallop fisherman. It took years to recover.

Who is to blame there? The greens? I don't agree with all the closures that have been implemented however the green zones on the GB reef are hard to argue with now that the results are becoming public. Free rein means no fisheries. Pure and simple.

You only need to look at all the dead reefs to our north around Asia to see what happens when hard decisions are not made.

If that is allowed to happen here, I wonder what you will think of the greens then?

BARRAkid
17-09-2008, 10:07 PM
There is always a few dead fish at the dams i don't think i have been to monduran without seeing a dead fish :'( you see a few floaters but how many are really dieing i would think barra sink aswell when they die (well they one of the ones in my tank sunk) and then there is the ones the pigs pull up into the scrub :-/
But aleast people are trying there hardest to keep these fish alive nearly every serious angler knows to support the fishes weight which is good and reduces there chances of dieing.

Just lucky awonga or monduran hasn't had a fish kill like lenthals hundreds died there we wen't out there and there was piles of barra sitting in the bays and been dragged up the bank :'( that lake has never been the same :o

cheers BK

Dick Pasfield
17-09-2008, 10:54 PM
Sorry, but the greens are anti-angling, anti-shooting, anti-poofer and lesbo jokes (too close to home), anti-anything not politically correct or which doesn't suit their loony left agenda.

The tragedy for the country is that at the far right of our polarised politics we have the likes of that hayseed senator, Barney Joyce. His way to Canberra was paid by irrigators like Cubbie Station.

The Nationals have a platform that's basically shoot, root, and electrocute. But have a lot to answer for over what's happened to the Murray Darling. Their cotton pickin' fingers are still poking around the pie that's all that water that floods down to fill Lake Ayre.

'bout the size of it

snatch
17-09-2008, 11:31 PM
Sorry, .

No need to apologies until they save something you actually care about;)

That is of course if it isn't too late. Interesting that you mention the state of the Murray Darling yet ignore their contribution to pressing for change. Kind of a double standard yeah?

Oh, and it's a fishery.

spears
18-09-2008, 01:31 AM
It's a real shame that mother nature has produced a couple of cold winters and barra don't like really cold water.

When is this global warming going to cut in???????? last summer was also colder than usual, what's going on???

I fished at Awoonga last Monday 8th througfh to Thursday 11th Sept. and i can asure you that there are plenty of dead barra there as well, the boys reckon 500 plus, mostly big fish. Nothing we can do about it but its still a bloody shame to lose them like that.

Cheers,
John.
When is this global warming going to cut in???????? last summer was also colder than usual, what's going on???


Actually there is no proof of global warming and ice melting..
Do a search through google where many articles have been written saying no evidence of any climate change.
No increase in seas rising..No nothing is happening..
I was surprised to read all that info.
Not having a go at ya just stating a fact.

snatch
18-09-2008, 09:41 AM
Be careful what you read. There is a lot of propaganda out there regarding climate change from both sides. I also think you mean there is no evidence of global warming, not climate change. The climate changes all the time.

As for ice melting ,there is plenty of proof in both the ice shelves and glaciers. Though I doubt either of these factors are fesponsible for the death of these barra.:P

nob
18-09-2008, 10:08 AM
modo

is it raining....and where did u bii that spouge

modo
18-09-2008, 11:05 AM
From you. You porn star. And thanks for your sms replies on Saturday night.::)

nob
18-09-2008, 11:32 AM
sorry mate i was busy fishing.....and i cant read or write....bit like the greenies;D

modo
18-09-2008, 11:49 AM
Ok someone's going to complain.:-X:D:D

snatch
18-09-2008, 03:10 PM
Obviously the mods need to lock this thread now. It is way off topic .

nob
18-09-2008, 04:17 PM
snatch.....no need to get upset mate.... this is just a discussion with everyone being able to have an opinion....

i think that most ausfishers are all for sustainable future in our wonderful fishery but the agenda of the greens is not always as noble as it may seem..if we look at the goals of the queensland greens section 2.4 states "full local community participation in decision making" if this is the case this forum would be perfect for the greens to become involved and perhaps listen to some of the thoughts of recreational fisherman before pushing there thoughts onto the local powers that be....normally the time frame between a RIS being realesed and legislation being passed is all to little to late. I do comend some of the work the greens do but a little more interaction with the community would perhaps be more benaficial for everyone and who knows the may evan recieve some valuable information.

This is my opinon only and i am glad we have ausfish as a forum to voice this

cheers

nob

PS a copy of the greens goals

The Queensland Greens want:

2.1 The protection or restoration of environmental values and ecosystem services provided by the State's rivers and streams and groundwater systems.
2.2 The preservation of values that are fundamental to our Indigenous culture.
2.3 Maintenance of public ownership and control over all major water supply systems.
2.4 Full local community participation in decision making.
2.5 The adoption of a 'least cost planning' approach to addressing water demand.
2.6 The pricing of water to consider the full social, environmental and economic costs of water use and delivery.
2.7 Policy and practice to follow the principles of polluter pays, user pays and catchment benefits.

shaneoo
18-09-2008, 04:20 PM
but where is that beautiful music coming from, well boys what can i say, it is funny how politics and religion can raise the heckles on the back of most peoples necks, and how the media can make us all believe the world is going to end next week, they decided that we need a new government and they got it now we have a dud of a prime minister that even his own unions are bagging. As for the greens i am sorry and this is my opinion, i really don't no why i have to pay taxes to keep them around, they really only have to be there to make up the numbers, surely as a Australian tax payer dont we have the right to speak our minds about how our country is being run, if any body spent 10 mins whatching the poeple that we voted for in parliment, while in parliment my god i can tell u as a business owner if anybody that i was paying carried on like that, bye bye would be my response. guys if anything i think the hole country needs to stand up and make all these guys in the big house more responsable for there actions.
but hey this is my opion

nob
18-09-2008, 04:51 PM
shaneoo

you should run for the top job....make rum free


;D

warrior
18-09-2008, 05:23 PM
but where is that beautiful music coming from, well boys what can i say, it is funny how politics and religion can raise the heckles on the back of most peoples necks, and how the media can make us all believe the world is going to end next week, they decided that we need a new government and they got it now we have a dud of a prime minister that even his own unions are bagging. As for the greens i am sorry and this is my opinion, i really don't no why i have to pay taxes to keep them around, they really only have to be there to make up the numbers, surely as a Australian tax payer dont we have the right to speak our minds about how our country is being run, if any body spent 10 mins whatching the poeple that we voted for in parliment, while in parliment my god i can tell u as a business owner if anybody that i was paying carried on like that, bye bye would be my response. guys if anything i think the hole country needs to stand up and make all these guys in the big house more responsable for there actions.
but hey this is my opion
mate you hit the nail on the head good on you

A_DIFF_PERSPECTIVE
18-09-2008, 08:49 PM
On a fishy note, I shook my head all day at the number of barra showing on the sounder screen from deep edges, river channels and weed edges. From around 4 miles of lake and river, the barra numbers literally blew me away, so the sad sight of the lost specimens on the bank really fades into oblivion with what still exists. I'd believe Monduran would be in a smilar position. A tiny loss.

snatch
18-09-2008, 09:05 PM
but where is that beautiful music coming from, well boys what can i say, it is funny how politics and religion can raise the heckles on the back of most peoples necks, and how the media can make us all believe the world is going to end next week, they decided that we need a new government and they got it now we have a dud of a prime minister that even his own unions are bagging. As for the greens i am sorry and this is my opinion, i really don't no why i have to pay taxes to keep them around, they really only have to be there to make up the numbers, surely as a Australian tax payer dont we have the right to speak our minds about how our country is being run, if any body spent 10 mins whatching the poeple that we voted for in parliment, while in parliment my god i can tell u as a business owner if anybody that i was paying carried on like that, bye bye would be my response. guys if anything i think the hole country needs to stand up and make all these guys in the big house more responsable for there actions.
but hey this is my opion

.....and this has what to do with "dead barra"?
Oh and I guess by reading your report that you are in love with the libs. In Qld those morons with their national honeymooners closed repulse bay
(the biggest barra fishery on the east coast) to recreational anglers and gave an exemption to the pros at the eleventh hour. Real smart.

You can't have it both ways. I have heard numerous rants in these forums about the damage the pros do to the fisheries and yet you seem to love the very people that keep letting them do it. Hypocritical? You bet ya!

shaneoo
19-09-2008, 09:04 AM
On a fishy note, I shook my head all day at the number of barra showing on the sounder screen from deep edges, river channels and weed edges. From around 4 miles of lake and river, the barra numbers literally blew me away, so the sad sight of the lost specimens on the bank really fades into oblivion with what still exists. I'd believe Monduran would be in a smilar position. A tiny loss.

hi a_diff_ptr,
mate yes that is a very good sign, we where up at mondy on the weekend chatting with lyndon, and we where saying how we found barra holding on those deep edges, we where discussioning that if the water was so cold why would the barra be holding in that depth and not move up into the shallow water to warm them selfves up, or to even feed. i no every body comments on the water temp behin 23 on the surface but if u jump in even just the difference of ur body length u can feel the change, so by the time you get down to where the barra are holding eg5mtr plus would they not be in poss 16deg or less, which in my mind they would be basically sleeping. Just my thoughts as we are still new to fresh water fishing, i will agree the numbers of dead barra we seen where no where as many as last year and i do realise that barra numbers in these dams are large but seeing any dead barra at that size is a shame.
One thing we did notice we found a lot of bait holding in certain bays, yes the wind was blowing into these bays, and even in those bay the barra where shoing on the sounder but deep again.
anyway cheers for your info
shaneoo

modo
19-09-2008, 11:32 AM
Yer when we were up their we saw the same thing on the sounder very low inactive fish most proberly conserving energy. The only thing that worked was a troll thru the pack about a dozen passes to get the odd touch but no hook ups.

Dick Pasfield
21-09-2008, 01:17 PM
Thought I'd leave this a while to reflect;)

Done that so, "Once more unto the breach" ::)


The fundamental issue here is that some dead barra don't just sink to the bottom and stay there. That's been pretty handy as evidence of fish kills related to some sort of 'incident' (artificial or environmental) where the evidence leads to some sort of action to prevent it happening again (i.e. chemical spill etc etc etc, no need to go there)

In this incidence it could be argued that the event is a natural phenomenon related to colder then normal winter temps (can it, is it?). However animal cruelty groups may see fit to take a different line here and ague that the fish were placed in 'harm's way' so as to speak an therefore the deaths are attributable to the restocking process being flawed in some ways such as site selection or stocking densities (or whatever).

Some of these groups have had a major role in issues such as live sheep transport and mulesing and have a significant following internationally.

No one likes to see a dead fish, my point is that it could be used by those groups to take another shot at fishing, To address that matter you need to have your bum covered to some extent. How covered is the bum of dam stocking in this case?

shaneoo
21-09-2008, 03:19 PM
Thought I'd leave this a while to reflect;)

Done that so, "Once more unto the breach" ::)


The fundamental issue here is that some dead barra don't just sink to the bottom and stay there. That's been pretty handy as evidence of fish kills related to some sort of 'incident' (artificial or environmental) where the evidence leads to some sort of action to prevent it happening again (i.e. chemical spill etc etc etc, no need to go there)

In this incidence it could be argued that the event is a natural phenomenon related to colder then normal winter temps (can it, is it?). However animal cruelty groups may see fit to take a different line here and ague that the fish were placed in 'harm's way' so as to speak an therefore the deaths are attributable to the restocking process being flawed in some ways such as site selection or stocking densities (or whatever).

Some of these groups have had a major role in issues such as live sheep transport and mulesing and have a significant following internationally.

No one likes to see a dead fish, my point is that it could be used by those groups to take another shot at fishing, To address that matter you need to have your bum covered to some extent. How covered is the bum of dam stocking in this case?

Well said mate and i think this is what modo was getting at, gone are the days of free country. Seams we are getting flooded with goody to shoes, it all become about the money
cheers shaneoo

snatch
21-09-2008, 03:34 PM
Conspiracy of the dead barra? That is hilarious. Wow. :)

All killed by goody-two-shoes.

A_DIFF_PERSPECTIVE
21-09-2008, 06:06 PM
Shaneoo,
The big picture with barra is about 900 pages long and hard to explain in a forum in a moderate response, but barra move deep in lakes usually to find stability in temperature, well away from the surface temperatures that fluctuate by day and night. In unstable weather that rolls from warm to cold, or even from cold to colder, many fish will drop over deep contours to sit in larger water masses where, yes, the temperature is colder. It is colder, but the temperature is stable and will adjust far less than the upper layers. Direct opposite to this is warm weather that lasts for days on end that allow perfect conditions in the upper layers of a lake. When this occurs, barra will bite their heads off as their metabolic rates increase and conditions for healthy living improve. When conditions suit for barra to be in big numbers in the upper layers of a lake, anglers will catch big numbers of fish, just like now in Awoonga and Monduran. The next cold snap or severe few days of weather change; and catch rates will slow as many fish will move deep and the remainder will have their metabolism slowed to a point where the food and energy levels in their bodies will last for a long period making shallow water fishing a tougher ask.
In the depths of a lake in mid winter, the water temperature can almost be equal from the surface to almost 24 metres down, some days just point 1 of a degree seperates top and bottom. Pretty fascinating. On calm days, winter or summer, there can be a significant change from top to bottom, with a layering effect in temp change usually in the first 6 metres. It can vary up to about 5degrees celcius in the first 6 metres. It is a fallacy that barramundi all head for warm water in winter. Only those that need to digest food, increase body temperature for body maintenance or some of those fish that do it tough in the extreme cold head for warm shallows. Hungry or catchable fish can be found here as well, but only a very tiny percent of the population move in. While anglers catch barra in shallow in winter or summer, there are still well over roughly 50-90% of the entire population holding deep in a lake. I have submersible data loggers that register temperature changes in lakes every 5 mins and some of the deeper parts of a lake hardly change for days, even when a big blow is on. In shallow reaches, it can drop 3 degrees overnight. On the surface it can drop a few degrees in an hour. The deep holds security for fish to rest and possibly sleep as well, not to mention adjustments in oxygen levels as well. Without going into a 500000000000 word response, this is basic talk.
Dick,
The same occurs in wild billabongs, but usually the fish in those ponds don't grow as big, so it is a debatable topic, but a good one to ponder.
Thanks,
Johnny

nob
23-09-2008, 03:35 PM
Shaneoo,
The big picture with barra is about 900 pages long and hard to explain in a forum in a moderate response, but barra move deep in lakes usually to find stability in temperature, well away from the surface temperatures that fluctuate by day and night. In unstable weather that rolls from warm to cold, or even from cold to colder, many fish will drop over deep contours to sit in larger water masses where, yes, the temperature is colder. It is colder, but the temperature is stable and will adjust far less than the upper layers. Direct opposite to this is warm weather that lasts for days on end that allow perfect conditions in the upper layers of a lake. When this occurs, barra will bite their heads off as their metabolic rates increase and conditions for healthy living improve. When conditions suit for barra to be in big numbers in the upper layers of a lake, anglers will catch big numbers of fish, just like now in Awoonga and Monduran. The next cold snap or severe few days of weather change; and catch rates will slow as many fish will move deep and the remainder will have their metabolism slowed to a point where the food and energy levels in their bodies will last for a long period making shallow water fishing a tougher ask.
In the depths of a lake in mid winter, the water temperature can almost be equal from the surface to almost 24 metres down, some days just point 1 of a degree seperates top and bottom. Pretty fascinating. On calm days, winter or summer, there can be a significant change from top to bottom, with a layering effect in temp change usually in the first 6 metres. It can vary up to about 5degrees celcius in the first 6 metres. It is a fallacy that barramundi all head for warm water in winter. Only those that need to digest food, increase body temperature for body maintenance or some of those fish that do it tough in the extreme cold head for warm shallows. Hungry or catchable fish can be found here as well, but only a very tiny percent of the population move in. While anglers catch barra in shallow in winter or summer, there are still well over roughly 50-90% of the entire population holding deep in a lake. I have submersible data loggers that register temperature changes in lakes every 5 mins and some of the deeper parts of a lake hardly change for days, even when a big blow is on. In shallow reaches, it can drop 3 degrees overnight. On the surface it can drop a few degrees in an hour. The deep holds security for fish to rest and possibly sleep as well, not to mention adjustments in oxygen levels as well. Without going into a 500000000000 word response, this is basic talk.
Dick,
The same occurs in wild billabongs, but usually the fish in those ponds don't grow as big, so it is a debatable topic, but a good one to ponder.
Thanks,
Johnny

very useful information...makes alot of sense
thanks a_ diff_

nob
23-09-2008, 03:49 PM
Thought I'd leave this a while to reflect;)

Done that so, "Once more unto the breach" ::)


The fundamental issue here is that some dead barra don't just sink to the bottom and stay there. That's been pretty handy as evidence of fish kills related to some sort of 'incident' (artificial or environmental) where the evidence leads to some sort of action to prevent it happening again (i.e. chemical spill etc etc etc, no need to go there)

In this incidence it could be argued that the event is a natural phenomenon related to colder then normal winter temps (can it, is it?). However animal cruelty groups may see fit to take a different line here and ague that the fish were placed in 'harm's way' so as to speak an therefore the deaths are attributable to the restocking process being flawed in some ways such as site selection or stocking densities (or whatever).

Some of these groups have had a major role in issues such as live sheep transport and mulesing and have a significant following internationally.

No one likes to see a dead fish, my point is that it could be used by those groups to take another shot at fishing, To address that matter you need to have your bum covered to some extent. How covered is the bum of dam stocking in this case?

dick

I agree 100% this type of incidence is perfect amuniton for the greens or groups of there low calibre to jump straight on to the bandwagon and that is were the dam stockist must have ther facts straight because sooner or later there will be reppercussions...

thanks again

nob

shaneoo
23-09-2008, 08:16 PM
hi jonny , mate thanks for the info, i do understand u can go into many many pages o info regarding holding and feeding barra, and like urself giving us information is very much appreciated. With the gys i fish up mondy with have started a diary just for fresh water barra fishing hoping this will also help us learn how to understand these impoundments. Mate i no you commented this is basic talk but to the average fishermen that only gets to thess wonderful places a couple of times a year, there is some really good info to be taken out of what you have written.
again jon cheers
shaneoo

FAREFISHER
25-09-2008, 11:17 PM
is it true that modo was seen entering a swag with one of those big girls, wearing pink lipstick and a frilly nighty ( the fish that is not modo!) ???

snatch
26-09-2008, 12:11 AM
dick

I agree 100% this type of incidence is perfect amuniton for the greens or groups of there low calibre to jump straight on to the bandwagon and that is were the dam stockist must have ther facts straight because sooner or later there will be reppercussions...

thanks again

nob

I best run and tell the greens then and test your theory

modo
26-09-2008, 08:22 AM
And I kicked it out when I found out it was a bloke:-X:-[:o;D


is it true that modo was seen entering a swag with one of those big girls, wearing pink lipstick and a frilly nighty ( the fish that is not modo!) ???

Lovdayellas
26-09-2008, 01:37 PM
I best run and tell the greens then and test your theory

Drop the theory off, and then.....please......keep running.

snatch
26-09-2008, 06:19 PM
You first.

nob
03-10-2008, 10:03 AM
I best run and tell the greens then and test your theory

sounds to me like a perfect green tactic.....run run run