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chops_rx2
02-07-2008, 10:57 AM
Hey Guys,

Looking at starting SP/hardbody fishing in the near future, and will need a new rod/reel to do this.

Fishing will mostly be south coast based targeting bream/flatties but i intend to take the combo up to the gold coast whenever i go and visit my parents (few times a year) so might also have to deal with slightly bigger fish such as travally/Jacks etc.

Looking to spend about $200 on the combo max, and have picked out the following:

Rod - Shimano Rack Raider 2pc ; 6'8" ; 3-5kg ; Spin ; 3-12g
Reel - Shimano Symetre - SY 2500FI ; 6.0-1 ; 170yds/6lb

Would this combo be sufficient for my needs, or can anyone else reccomend me another combo?

Was looking to run 4lb fireline and 8-12lb leader for most fishing, is this ok and if so are there any preferences in the colour of the braid?

Finally looking for some lures to start off with, had the following picked:

Hard body
TT Switchblades
ecogear SX40

SP
Squidgy pro wriggler - 65mm
Gulp 3" minnow

Gulp 5" Shad (larger fish)

Is this a good start and anywear else i should be looking?

Any advice is much apprecitated.

Cheers

Rob

kevvie
02-07-2008, 11:46 AM
Mate sounds like you are pretty much spot on the money. My only concerns are two fold.

1) I think the 6'8" rod is a little too short. If your casting from shore (as well as a boat) it wont give you the cast distance on the lures you have mentioned. Plus a 3-5kg stick might be a little heavy. Maybe look at the starlostix pro 7'3" 2-4kg stick. It is definately more 4kg than 2kg but has a soft tip to cast small lures but plenty of grunt to stop trevws and jewies etc. I know its prob more than you want to spend but something like it would be ideal. Even a pflueger trion 7' 3-5kg would be good. Its more a 3kg stick than 5kgs and its resonable priced at 80 odd bux.

2) its your line selection. maybe consider 6lb braid if you think of tangling with trevs up north. For southern species 4lb is sufficient.

MeePee_99
02-07-2008, 11:49 AM
A symetre is a great reel for the price, my brother has one and after a year and a half it is as smooth as my aspire!!!!!!!

Little grey men
02-07-2008, 12:30 PM
I use almost the same setup for bass. It should be OK to cover a range of slightly heavier fishing applications.
Mine is used primarily to drag bass out of snags which it does with ease.
Kevvie is spot on about the lure casting . Mine is used to cast heavier stuff, between 8 -15gms. I've never tried to cast a little bream hard bodied lure with it but I know that I wouldn't get enough distance to make me happy.
I used it to cast a lot of light weight plastics in the grassy edges of Lake Samsonvale and those casts were quite short, usually no more than say 30m, even on mornings with no wind.
Slightly lighter and whippier would be the way to go to move your small lures.

chops_rx2
02-07-2008, 12:31 PM
Kevvie - Cheers for the advice and i know what you mean, only problem i can see with the starlo stix pro is that it is a 1pc rod, i really would prefer a 2pc for ease of travelling etc.

chops_rx2
02-07-2008, 12:44 PM
What about the Shimano Raider Finesse Bream 2pc - 7'6" 2-4kg 3-12gr lure
or Starlo Stix Squidgy Spin light 2pc - 7'2" 2-4k 3-12gr Lure

happy to look at other brands as well just not sure where to look.

tailorboi99
02-07-2008, 01:51 PM
Shimano Starlo Stix are brilliant rods - $99.00, also look for a fairly good length rod around 7-7.2feet is a great length for estuarys to flick lightly weighted plastics a fair way :d, also look for one around the line rating of 1-3kg or 2-4kg. For a reel I like Shimano reels in sizes from 1000 for the bream and flathead for the trevally and jacks I'd say a 2500 size reel to also handle bream and flathead nicely. I like the Shimano Sahara's and the Daiwa Excelor but they're pretty expensive so I'd go fo the Shimano Symetre. For line, use BRAID Whilst fishing plastics for great sensitivity! I like the fireline as it's a cheapish braid but it brilliant when fishing plastics. You should have some spare mono around the 10lb rating. Use the mono as backing then tie on the fireline. The fireline lb rating should be around 8lb for the fish you are wanting to fish with!

Good luck finding a combo!

Cheers Tom

tailorboi99
02-07-2008, 01:52 PM
Oh and also you have been on the right track with what you said earlier with the plastics and rod/reel.

Cheers Tom

chops_rx2
03-07-2008, 01:30 PM
cheers for all the replies people, one final question:

would the above rods in the 2 - 4kg range be capable of throwing the occasional larger metal lure (20 - 40g) at trevs etc? (obviously line weight would need to go up a bit, just interested in if the rod could handle it)

Cheers

kevvie
03-07-2008, 03:07 PM
some that have been mentioned would definately.... are they the 'ideal' rod for that purpose probably not.

The starlostix pro tourny 2-4 throws 25g sp/head combo all day without hassle. A bit tippy to be throwing 40g but would do it...plenty of low down power if you hook a good fish on it too.

chops_rx2
04-07-2008, 07:38 AM
Cheers for the advice Kevvie, tailorboi and the rest, much appreciated. Now to work out when i can make it down the coast for my next bout of fishing and try pick up the new stuff sometime before then!

For Steve
05-07-2008, 10:18 AM
I've been using the same Rack Raider you're considering. It's been a great rod, especially for it's $100 price tag. I find it's suited beautifully to 1/8oz to 1/4oz casting.

I also cast 2g bream lures and 1/12oz jigheads - it can do it but it's not ideal. I haven't casted a lot of slugs but I'd stay below 20g. It's handled snapper to 60cm, GT to 70cm, flathead to 70cm, and bream with ease. A good allround SP and lure rod - I think you'll be happy for what you'll be using it for.

Match it up with a 2500 size reel and some 6lb Fireline and you're sorted. The Symetre will be fine.

Regards
Brad

chops_rx2
09-07-2008, 10:31 AM
Hi again guys.

Have one more question, looking at buying this setup in the next few weeks, however when i had a look at M# tackle last night (where i will likely be buying from) they no longer list the symetre reel.

So my question is, what is another good 2500 size reel for around $100?

was having a look at these:

Shimano Sedona 2500 - $79
Daiwa CY Spin 2500 - $99
Daiwa Regal 2500 - $89

Those are the ones i could see, what would be better out of these three and are there any others i should be looking out for - will be match with the Shimano Finesse bream Raider rod (2 pc)

Cheers again

LostNearBribie
09-07-2008, 12:56 PM
Mate there is a good combo in the for sale section at the moment...

http://www.ausfish.com.au/vforum/showthread.php?t=134523

chops_rx2
09-07-2008, 03:05 PM
Thanks for that lostnearbribie,

Unfortunetly it is only a 1 piece rod and as a plan on travelling a lot really would prefer a two piece, as well as a 2500 size reel to overcome line lay problems.

Cheers anyway

chops_rx2
10-07-2008, 08:44 AM
Anyone have any ideas regarding my reel question?