View Full Version : Kevlact 5.2 repower with xl 60hp yami 4st ....steering modifications
fromeo
19-06-2008, 07:54 AM
Hi guys ,
I am repowering my 5.2 kevla with 60 hp xl yami's modifying the pods to do so , would any one have any comments regarding the steering modifications that need to be done to accommodate the change , my model has cable steering with a ss rod running under the duck board between nylon bushes , pushing ,tie rods either side to the engines . It would be good to hear on the types of mods that have been done. I have spoken to a few dealers and they say go to hydraulics with twin bull horns , but some say go to a single hydralic with tie rods to eliminate wandering if the rams go out of sync. Your thoughts and experiences would be appreciated. What is a good Brand of Hydraulic steering ,
Thanks
Fred :)
finding_time
19-06-2008, 08:15 AM
Fred!
I'll try and post some pics of mine.
Ian
Noelm
19-06-2008, 08:24 AM
probably a dozen ways to go about it, twin rams is good, single with tie bar is good, cable is last on the list, it works is about all I can say, so what we have is Motor steering points 5" higher than before, correct? I guess (without seeing it) might be possible to get a different bend tie bar made up, I have seen that a few times, but in the long run, going Hydraulic might be the best option, more expensive, yes, better, yes, now twin or single, going single, you sort of have the same problem you have now! going twin rams, fixes all your dramas, the Motors "wandering" is possible, but not common, that usually happens on setups with a Hydraulic tie setup.
Noelm
19-06-2008, 08:26 AM
I forgot, I also used to have an "under the duckboard" setup, and it just had short steering ends, that had swivel joints at each end, and they just ran at an angle from the tie bar to the Motor, I guess like you have now sort of, never gave me any troubles at all
fromeo
19-06-2008, 08:37 AM
Hi,
can you get twin bull horn systems without a Hydraulic tie setup ?
Thanks
Fred
finding_time
19-06-2008, 09:10 AM
Ok fromeo
I've got twin rams and run a isolator swich so you can realign if needed for what ever reason i hope the pics below help.
Ian
finding_time
19-06-2008, 09:14 AM
Here's a pic of my modified pods and also the spary deflectors that work very well
Cheers Ian
fromeo
19-06-2008, 09:38 AM
Thanks for the pics Ian they are a big help , Just a question do you think its worth while adding some extra buoyancy into the pods during the modification. given that the motors a a little heavier than the 2 strokes.
Fred
finding_time
19-06-2008, 09:49 AM
Fromeo
My boat sits well with these pods and motors, i have the same pods as kittycat(Wayne) and he hangs honda 75's of them and there HUGE!!! Wayne reckons i have the larger pods though?:-/
Below is a pic of mine in the water and waynes with the 75's in the water i've also included another photo of the motor setup!
finding_time
19-06-2008, 09:51 AM
Fromeo
Ps. Both boats are fully loaded with fuel and i had a full 350l esky onboard!
fromeo
19-06-2008, 09:57 AM
Thanks again Ian you have really been a big help I do appreciate it ...What is that strange looking structure under your pod , is that some sort of mod ?
finding_time
19-06-2008, 10:09 AM
Yep the previous owner thought it would give it lift under way but i reckon all it does is add 10kg to each side. It stuck on very well so if i decide to take the pods off and repaint i'll remove it then but they will take alot of paint off when i remove them so until then they stay!
Ian
boatboy50
19-06-2008, 12:34 PM
Hey Ian,
I'm going through the repower now too.
Bought a set of Merc 60 4 strokes, which are yet to be fitted. The Hondas are off, and the boat's getting a lick of paint. So within the next two weeks i'll have a barrage of questions i'm sure.
What are your spray deflectors made from? Is that cutting board material?
Is your cav plate lined up with the bottom of the hull, or the bottom of the pods? They look deep to me?
Approximately how wide and long are your deflectors?
Regards
Darren
finding_time
19-06-2008, 05:38 PM
Darren
Yep cutting board material and they are about 5 inches wide on the inside but i have seen some staino ones that are only 3 inches wide and they seem to work!
As for the motors do the below pics help?
Uan
Ps. i couldn't help myself with the last one;D :P
PPS. i'm all out of pics so i hope that's all:-/ :D
Dean1
19-06-2008, 06:13 PM
Hi fromeo, i love talking 5.2 kc's! Just an idea, mine is a 97 model 5.2 with the factory raised pods. Its been setup with 1 ram for the hydraulic steering which is mounted under the duckboard, with arms coming straight out to each motor. If you have an earlier hull what they do in this case is raise the duckboard to suit the height of the new pods. Its a simple and effective method, probably the cheapest way to go. Ian im not saying your setup is wrong buddy I just think this is the cheapest way and it works perfect. My boats not at home at the moment so i cant take a pic, but I have one of a guy who does this for a living. I have a pic which may help, Dean.
boatboy50
19-06-2008, 06:14 PM
Thanks Ian,
Those pics are great.
With the new pics, your engines look high, in line with the pod not the hull. Have you ever had any cavitation? I was stupid enough to take the Hondas off before taking the pics of how they were set up.
Fred, i've got a single ram mounted under the duckboard, running a tie bar to each engine. I don't have it here at the moment, so can't get any pics for you, but will when it returns.
Regards
Darren
Dean1
19-06-2008, 06:20 PM
I nearly bought this boat but couldnt get my head around the green :-/
finding_time
19-06-2008, 06:42 PM
Darren
Only when i trim it out to far or am running down hill and keeping the boat balanced with trim occasionally one engine will cavitate abit, but i'm sure all do that!
Ian
Ps.
Gee those motors on that green kc look low though!:o But it's hard to tell from a rear on pic!
finding_time
19-06-2008, 06:50 PM
Found a side on shot of the green kc
http://www.ausfish.com.au/vforum/attachment.php?attachmentid=14983&ads=1&d=1213868929
Dean1
19-06-2008, 06:54 PM
Found a side on shot of the green kc
http://www.ausfish.com.au/vforum/attachment.php?attachmentid=14983&ads=1&d=1213868929 G'day Ian are you into my pics ;D Do you think they are the right height on the green machine?? This is the guys boat that was going to fit mine. He just sold it for $60 000!!!
finding_time
19-06-2008, 06:55 PM
in fact Darren read this thread John has got all the info and his motors look very similarly placed to mine!
http://www.ausfish.com.au/vforum/showthread.php?t=118075&page=2
Ian
Dean
Nup reckon there to low , look at Johns second pics and the figures he gives!;)
Dean1
19-06-2008, 07:18 PM
in fact Darren read this thread John has got all the info and his motors look very similarly placed to mine!
http://www.ausfish.com.au/vforum/showthread.php?t=118075&page=2
Ian
Dean
Nup reckon there to low , look at Johns second pics and the figures he gives!;) Mmmm he claims their punchier out of the hole than his 2 bangers and getting 29kts outa her! Their Definatly big enough! Ian do you think these pods of mine look high enough??
hinchy
20-06-2008, 07:25 AM
finding_time
Hi Ian
Love your aerial shot,it's a ripper.
Kind Regards
Hinchy
fromeo
20-06-2008, 01:31 PM
Thanks Darren,
Some close up pics of the steering mechanism would be helpful .
Fred
boatboy50
20-06-2008, 02:13 PM
No worries From,
She's off getting a paint job, and won't be back till mid next week.
I will get some pics once I have it back. Mine sounds like the same system as what Dean is running.
Regards
Darren
fromeo
20-06-2008, 02:31 PM
Ok Ian ,
out
fromeo
20-06-2008, 02:33 PM
Ok Ian ,
out with it ,what is really under those cowling ...its a great shot. you timed it perfectly.;D
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