PDA

View Full Version : The Hazards Of Fishing!!!



Poodroo
22-05-2008, 05:32 PM
Hello fellow Ausfishers,
In general conversation this morning at work one of my collegues shared a fishing mishap with me which I thought I would in turn share with everyone here because I guess there are certain things that happen during fishing that we just would never dream about and this is one of them.
Yesterday a friend of my lady collegue decided that he and a mate would sneak in an early fish rather than head off to work. They got on the water nice and early and headed to one of his favourite reefs. Not many people on the water he discovers so he and his friend position themselves over some structure and drops anchor. Soon they were joined by another vessel and the skipper also anchors on the same reef but within a considerate distance away from my collegues friend. The skipper from the other boat manages to do what a lot of us do when fishing on a reef and gets his hook well and truly snagged. He winds his reel and gets a considerable amount of tension on it to dislodge the hook but the 40lb+ mono was not going to snap easily. Eventually it was time to give and the mono snaps with a massive crack but then the unthinkable happens. The sinker fires with great velocity and manages to hit my collegue's friend in the eye with such force it knocked him to the floor of the boat like a sack of proverbial sh!t. He was flown to hospital where he has undergone surgery and the prognosis is not good. He looks like he will lose the eye. So with this I would like to urge you all to just be careful with even the most apparently stupid things because tragedy can strike when we least expect it.

Regards,

Poodroo

chief 1
22-05-2008, 05:37 PM
that wouldn't have been the most pleasant feeling,i would have had snotted the other skipper

tunaticer
22-05-2008, 05:46 PM
A old friend lost an eye in almost exactly the same scenario on Scarby Reef some 30 years ago. No matter how many times you see or hear of it happening, it is always sickening.

Hope your mate gets through this ordeal with as little discomfort as possible.

Jack.

Keechie
22-05-2008, 05:50 PM
ooh best of luck to him. i have ad the same at shorncliffe pier he hooked a snag on like 30lb line and puuled it tight and because he had the sinker wrapped onto the line the hook snapped and back came the #3 or 4 ball sinker with the line still attached and cracked me in the chest i ended up with a really nice big bruise on my chest and was winded, i know how much that hurt so i can't imagine in the eye. best of luck to him.

regards,
keechie

Outsider1
22-05-2008, 05:57 PM
I guess that is a disadvantage of Mono line? The stretch in this case resulting in a rubber band effect. I would assume that braid would be considered a bit "safer" in this scenario and not so prone to sling.? Do the lure guys find this is also the case?

Sad to hear of these sort of accidents, wish the the guy the best in his recovery.

Cheers

Dave

4x4frog
22-05-2008, 06:00 PM
I was in the PA hospital way back when I was a lad in 1979/80 I think it was. There was a guy from Rockhampton who'd done the exact same thing but got himself with a huge surf sinker

CreelReaper
22-05-2008, 06:53 PM
Yep....the proverbial early morning sickie. We've all had them at one stage or another. Unlucky for your mate it all went belly up for him. Geez thats gotta hurt and I hope it doesn't end up as serious as it sounds. I am sure all our thoughts are with him.
It is a reminder though that we should all keep our wits about us and never lose sight of the possibilities. It is also lucky that he had someone with him. Thanks Poodroo for the timely warning.

Noiseworks
22-05-2008, 07:11 PM
Sad story Poodroo. Please pass on best wishes if you are able to. Incidences like these remind us of how sometimes our own existence is virtually hanging by a thread. Live life while we can.

FNQCairns
22-05-2008, 07:11 PM
Shocking story, I have with the hindsight of experience and been able to pull myself up half way through the same exercise, sinkers have found my body before and it hurts, there is much weekly we get away with, fate favors no individual. Hope the prognosis improves.

Cheers fnq

Reel Nauti
22-05-2008, 07:39 PM
A few years ago I was fishing with a mate in Grahams Ck which is part of the Narrows up from Gladstone. He snagged his line in quite shallow water, and a fair distance from the boat. The rod was a Black Queen and it had an arch in it like you wouldn't believe with the mate fairly leaning on it. Yep it happened, line broke and the #3 ball came back faster than we could see, smashed his sunglasses and straight into his left eye. Bloody incredible that they seem to find the eye.

Careflight to Brisbane and they saved his eye, but it was a lesson I shall never forget. If you must pull hard like that, warn everyone else to turn away, and turn your own back on it. If it's not too much line to lose, cut the bloody thing.

Best wishes to this other poor bugger. A very painful experience indeed.

Dave

Angla
22-05-2008, 07:55 PM
That sounds like an absolutely freeky thing. I hope the injured person is able to carry on after things heal, be it with 1 or 2 eyes. There would be major hurdles for him I would think.

Chris

3rd degree
22-05-2008, 08:02 PM
Did he have sunnies on? At least that would have slowed it up a bit.

Its terribly unlucky for him, I hope things improve.

All the best to the poor fella.

Jim

bdowdy
22-05-2008, 08:41 PM
i always fish with sunnys on for sighting fish ,glare, and PROTECTION,, BUT I DO KNOW HOW EASY IT HAPPENS....i also got hit in the eyebrow lucky enough while fishing at night and had caught ahuge ray when snap and the sinker cracked me,,, few stitches and didnt really realize how lucky i was till next morning thinking about it,,,,LETS HOPE ALL GOES WELL for your friend... cheers bdowdy.brett

Lucky_Phill
22-05-2008, 08:48 PM
Not as serious as the abovementioned incident but,

A while ago I took a couple of mates to Hervey Bay to do some spottie mackerel fishing. Of the 4 of us, 3 were experienced at tossing slugs at spotties and the newbie was a surf fisho.

Anyway, we are having a red hot bite and slugs getting tossed in order. But newbie drags a mack to the boat, I grab the leader and haul it onto the deck, as I do, the slug gets shaken free and hits me in the forehead. Then I feel this pulling… the newbie is trying to cast the slug back at the spotties, that are all round the boat, and the slug is inbedded in my forehead. So I am there holding the leader, yelling “ stop stop “, and this guy is yelling back, “ no they are all around “….. anyway, finally get him to stop yanking and I cut off the leader and tell him to tie another slug on.

So trebles are in the skin and a trickle of blood is flowing down the face onto the nose. Cool, I think, and call to other mate to take a pic for AF. No, I’m busy was his reply and he’s hauling in another fish. So I ask other mate to remove slug from head. Nope, trebles gone through skin and poking out other side. Well cut them off. Trouble being, the wires in the slugs are good quality and we have blunt pliers. I am on my knees in front of mate while he is yanking and twisting pliers in an effort to remove slug, blood trickling and the other two ferrets tossing slugs at spotties and having a good time.

Finally cut off slug, then time to cut ends of trebles… another hard task. Cut them off, and push trebles through skin and I am free. Newbie keeps apologizing, but it’s not his fault, these things happen, but have been noted for future reference.

Should always carry those mini bolt cutter things. Only things that will cut successfully through stainless wires and hooks, without twisting and draggin ya head from side to side.

It was a laugh at the time and even now, but it could have been a whole lot worse, 60mm further down and she’d be straight in the eye. Ouch !

Still think about me on my knees and old mate trying to cast slug all the time attached to my head. Lol

Cheers phill

Imfiik
22-05-2008, 08:52 PM
Two of my mates were fishing spotties out from point Cartwright. Mick hooked a good fish and fought it back to the boat. They were using chrome slugs. The fish had its usual last dash and the slug flew free. Two of the treble hooks embedded in his top and bottom lips. End of fishing. Chris rushed him over to Kawana medical centre. After he parked the boat he was able to locate mick by the doctos and nurses laughter. I doubt if they would have been laughing if it had hit his eye particularly pointy end first.
Mick rated the pain of the hooks at about three. He rated the pain of the local anaesthetic injection just under his nose at ten.

jacobvz
22-05-2008, 08:55 PM
what idiot pulls a hook from a snag using the arch of the rod anyway.

Pull straight on the line while grabbing the reel with two hands. MUch more power while pulling and when it comes loose it will not fly.

This stupidity makes me angry. Boat was anchored too close as well. I f I can cast a lure in the boat anchoring next to me he is way too close. Especially when it is early with only few boats around


Jack

Mark Malcolm
22-05-2008, 10:40 PM
I guess that is a disadvantage of Mono line? The stretch in this case resulting in a rubber band effect. I would assume that braid would be considered a bit "safer" in this scenario and not so prone to sling.? Do the lure guys find this is also the case?

Sad to hear of these sort of accidents, wish the the guy the best in his recovery.

Cheers

Dave

I usually use braid and the number of jigs that have been saved by the braid being able to either pop the jig off of a snag/bring the snag with it is awesome. Also if the jig is FUBAR its very easy to pop the leader safely or bend the shank of hook to recover plastic/jig. I think the only times I have problems is when I get carried away and forget where the plastic is until it flies past me at close range.

Wishing the best also for the recovery

NAGG
23-05-2008, 04:08 AM
what idiot pulls a hook from a snag using the arch of the rod anyway.

Pull straight on the line while grabbing the reel with two hands. MUch more power while pulling and when it comes loose it will not fly.



Jack


I learnt all about desnagging during my rockfishing days ....... I've seen more than a few sinkers fire back & crack someone in the scon
My procedure was to turn my back ..... rod over my shoulder ( grab the spool) ..... with the rod tip pointed as directly as possible to the snag
& you simply walked the opposite direction ( no tugging or yanking) ......... The worst that would happen is that you would fall flat on your face!

Nagg

theoldlegend
23-05-2008, 07:22 AM
It happened to me. True story. About 3 years ago, my mate and I were fishing the front of the Bluff at Iluka when I snagged up. Started walking backwards holding the Alvey when suddenly something whacked me on the left eyebrow, nearly knocking me out.

Dave says he saw me holding the side of my face with blood pouring down it and not really knowing where I was. After a while we realised the sinker had flown back like a bullet and got me on the eyebrow. Another centimetre lower, I would have lost my left eye for sure. Everytime I remember it, I feel sick. I'm lucky Dave was there to corroborate how I got this huge black eye that came up the next day. Ever since that episode, I'm much more aware of what can happen.

But that's only the first part of the story.

A week before we went, I'd had my gall bladder removed and I had to talk pretty hard to secure permission to go fishing for the following week. The next day after the sinker episode, we were due to leave and Dave wanted one last fish in the morning, but I woke up with this pain in my gut, so we packed up and left for home.

We filled up at Woodburn and by that time the pain in my gut was about 8 out of 10. By the time we got to Ballina it was 12 out of 10 and I was really screaming.
Dave took me to the emergency part of the Ballina hospital where they gave me some morphine and stuck me in a store room for a while and then transported me to Lismore as they had no beds.

Dave continued on his way with my gear and then rang Gwenda who said I'd probably need my tablets for blood pressure, cholesterol and diabetes. So back he drove for about 50 k's or so to drop off my tablets and then continue on his way.

They had no beds at Lismore either, so they kept moving me around all the time and stuck me in different places after somebody had left. The doctor saw the cut on my eyebrow and my black eye and couldn't really be convinced I hadn't been in a blue, but he came round after a while. They did despicable things to me there too. Stuck tubes and stuff into a lot of parts of my body that had never had tubes in them before, but the best thing was when they attached a little gadget on my hospital gown that squirted a tiny dose of morphine into me every ten minutes.

Turns out that a gall stone was in a bile duct or something and the xrays hadn't picked it up after the operation, and that was the little hooer that was giving me all this grief.

The next 3 days all I had was shaved ice. Then they decided they wouldn't do the operation there to get it out, so they rang my specialist here and told him I was going back by ambulance for him to do it. He got pretty excited when he heard about this and arranged for a RFDS plane to bring me back, which was good as it only took about 25 minutes or so.

Back to the Mater, a needle in the back of the hand and when I woke up, it was all done.

Sorry this is so long winded, but when both incidents for the week are considered, it was a fishing trip that certainly had its hazards!!


TOL

sharkymark2
23-05-2008, 07:35 AM
Happened to me out bush fishing on the banks of Myall Ck. Lucky I was wearing glasses as it shattered the lens but didn't get to my eye. Had an awful squint by the time I got home though ;).

Hot_Snappa
23-05-2008, 10:07 AM
Many years ago, mate and I were trout fishing some of the streams in the snowy mountains. Both using little Celtas and mate lost a good fish as he struck at it, celta came back at him at a rate of knots and trebles went through the webbing between the thumb and 1st finger. As we had walked for miles and travelled light didn't have any pliers to cut off hooks, so he asked me to use his rusty old fishing knife to cut the webbing to be able to release the trebles. Couldn't do it, so ended up holding the the webbing while he did it! Blood everywhere and quiet a deal of discomfort I would imagine (for him too lol), he calmly wrapped this handkerchief around it and kept fishing! Later that night, we went to hospital and got a few stitches and a tetnus injection!

dazza
23-05-2008, 12:08 PM
hi all,
interesting thread, it highlights that fishing can be/is a dangerous activity
after almost 20 years as an emergency nurse, i have seen everything from imbedded fish hooks, eye injuries from all sorts of fishing related equipment, hands through boat winches, people crushed between boats etc and sadly a fair few fatalities related to fishing.
also have a few funny stories as well
my advice is- be careful, enjoy a drink in moderation and look out for other idiots
poodroo-hope all turns out well for your mate
cheers
dazza

gunna
23-05-2008, 01:17 PM
If he was snagged on the reef then the sinker has had to have come back up presumably a fair way through the water. I'm just wondering what depth - or how far a sinker come rise at speed in water ?

Reel Nauti
23-05-2008, 01:47 PM
what idiot pulls a hook from a snag using the arch of the rod anyway.

Pull straight on the line while grabbing the reel with two hands. MUch more power while pulling and when it comes loose it will not fly.

This stupidity makes me angry. Boat was anchored too close as well. I f I can cast a lure in the boat anchoring next to me he is way too close. Especially when it is early with only few boats around


Jack

Certainly no idiot Jack, just one of those things that can happen when consequences aren't fully considered.

Dave

castlemaine
23-05-2008, 02:05 PM
WOW, I can't believe how common this is, because I never experienced it. Although I don't fish with that heavy a line or sinker. Hope he comes out of it in good spirits. I'm sure the other skipper had no idea what was going to happen, just imagine how he feels. I'm going to be a bit more careful next time. Thanks for the heads-up Poodroo. Cheers

Poodroo
23-05-2008, 05:48 PM
Okay a little more details have come to hand after chatting to my work collegue this arvo. Apparently the mishap happened in Gladstone and I have been made aware that her details were sketchy right up until last night. She told me yesterday they went out in his boat but this was not the case. He left the boat at home and he and his mate decided to fish off the land after queenfish and the like. The person next to them who they did not know was snagged and the rest of the story was true. He did get hit in the eye by the sinker and he did get flown from Gladstone to Brisbane where he underwent emergency surgery last night. Sadly he has kept the eye but has lost his sight. Not the happiest ending for him.
Sorry the facts weren't 100% in the original post but that's how it was told to me by my collegue. More info came to me today so I thought I would at least update you all.

Regards,

Poodroo

Noiseworks
23-05-2008, 09:21 PM
Ta for the update Poodroo. The story may have changed but the consequences have remained the same. After reading the initial report I was watching tv with the family and let them in on what you said, and the advice that others have provided. It has been a really sobering experience and we have now discussed how we should act in similar situations. Thanks for those that responded with tips that help to prevent these accidents.

Noiseworks

John West
23-05-2008, 10:39 PM
Mate was in his tinnie and was using his teeth to tighten the knot on the hook, somehow his son got his foot caught in the line and ouch hook straight thru the middle bit of his nose like some sort of weird peircing .
Anyhow they had nothing to chop the barb off with so had to go to the local medical center ,said he felt like a rite tool waiting with this hook dangling from his nose.

theclick
23-05-2008, 11:11 PM
Regarding the desnaggin practice. I have always pointed the rod at snag and locked up the reel with my hand. Though amongst the flats with plastics and with braid, i have occasionally launched a few jig heads right past my face, scaring the crap out of me. Best way is to wear sunnies (safety goggles at night if you can put up with looking like a dork), and face the other way

Ninja
23-05-2008, 11:14 PM
slugs need sunnies

Jackinthebox
23-05-2008, 11:58 PM
Holy crap Ninja, how did they get that one out?????

Similar thing happened to me as Lucky Phil. Was out with a mate chucking slugs at spotties off mooloolabah and 'ol mate brings a good fish to the boat. I gaff it for him as he hadn't had a lot of experience at this type of fishing and as i lift it onboard and hold it up with the gaff, I notice he is a bit excited and still has the rod in a full working curve with a fair bit of tension on the line.

I tell him to drop the rod and about a split second after I realise this situation is not good, the fish gives a headshake and a 40 gram slug rockets straight at my eyes from about knee height.

Fortunately I was already in the process of dipping my head as i must have had the sixth sense this was going to happen and the slug slammed into my eyebrow just above the sunnies and stayed there.

It was so quick & painful that i put my hands over my face instantly, not knowing if it had missed or if i was in shock and couldn't feel the treble in my eye.

The deckie shat himself and asked if i was ok as i couldn't take my hands off my eyes. Slowly as i realised the pain was above my eye & not in it, i took my hands away and could see the slug hanging in front of my face. The treble had just stuck into my eyebrow. I pulled it out & sat down pretty relieved & then had a few words to say to the deckie about not doing that again!!!

After that we got back to the spotties but i had a hell of a swollen egg on my face for a week afterwards.

Another thing that gets me worried is when inexperienced deckies get excited & start hurriedly pelting slugs at fish busting on top. I am very cautious at this point & usually tell 'em to settle down & look behind them before they cast.

Gotta say it again ..... that's one hell of a photo Ninja.

Mick

johnny roger
24-05-2008, 12:57 AM
Poodroo,
nothing to do with fishing, but your friends' incident is a reminder that no matter how prepared we are for accidents, its the small things that we take for granted, or overlook that will always catch us out.
i work in an industry where accidents are frequent, and going through some of the reports, they all have the same thing in common...they were all small accidents that could have been prevented with some extra thought. also complaicency is a culprit.
Hope he gets through it all.
John

Apollo
24-05-2008, 06:37 AM
Not as serious as the abovementioned incident but,

A while ago I took a couple of mates to Hervey Bay to do some spottie mackerel fishing. Of the 4 of us, 3 were experienced at tossing slugs at spotties and the newbie was a surf fisho.

Anyway, we are having a red hot bite and slugs getting tossed in order. But newbie drags a mack to the boat, I grab the leader and haul it onto the deck, as I do, the slug gets shaken free and hits me in the forehead. Then I feel this pulling… the newbie is trying to cast the slug back at the spotties, that are all round the boat, and the slug is inbedded in my forehead. So I am there holding the leader, yelling “ stop stop “, and this guy is yelling back, “ no they are all around “….. anyway, finally get him to stop yanking and I cut off the leader and tell him to tie another slug on.

So trebles are in the skin and a trickle of blood is flowing down the face onto the nose. Cool, I think, and call to other mate to take a pic for AF. No, I’m busy was his reply and he’s hauling in another fish. So I ask other mate to remove slug from head. Nope, trebles gone through skin and poking out other side. Well cut them off. Trouble being, the wires in the slugs are good quality and we have blunt pliers. I am on my knees in front of mate while he is yanking and twisting pliers in an effort to remove slug, blood trickling and the other two ferrets tossing slugs at spotties and having a good time.

Finally cut off slug, then time to cut ends of trebles… another hard task. Cut them off, and push trebles through skin and I am free. Newbie keeps apologizing, but it’s not his fault, these things happen, but have been noted for future reference.

Should always carry those mini bolt cutter things. Only things that will cut successfully through stainless wires and hooks, without twisting and draggin ya head from side to side.

It was a laugh at the time and even now, but it could have been a whole lot worse, 60mm further down and she’d be straight in the eye. Ouch !

Still think about me on my knees and old mate trying to cast slug all the time attached to my head. Lol

Cheers phill

So Phil, how does feel to be used as a livey?? He must be targeting something pretty big!

Tangles
24-05-2008, 06:15 PM
I learnt all about desnagging during my rockfishing days ....... I've seen more than a few sinkers fire back & crack someone in the scon
My procedure was to turn my back ..... rod over my shoulder ( grab the spool) ..... with the rod tip pointed as directly as possible to the snag
& you simply walked the opposite direction ( no tugging or yanking) ......... The worst that would happen is that you would fall flat on your face!

Nagg

Ive some old boys do this practice on Port MacQuarie of the rock walls and it opened my eyes how easy it was to de-snag.

Basically they did what Nagg said, except they would wrap the line around their waists once or twice then turn back and walk away, snags always came free without much fuss at all, others where doing by the rod for all they where worth without any luck and losing rigs, these old boys wheren't losing rigs either using this method, they would simply sharpen up their hooks and keep fishing.


mike

NAGG
24-05-2008, 10:28 PM
Ive some old boys do this practice on Port MacQuarie of the rock walls and it opened my eyes how easy it was to de-snag.

Basically they did what Nagg said, except they would wrap the line around their waists once or twice then turn back and walk away, snags always came free without much fuss at all, others where doing by the rod for all they where worth without any luck and losing rigs, these old boys wheren't losing rigs either using this method, they would simply sharpen up their hooks and keep fishing.


mike


Yeh Mike ..... It is a good technique that keeps the rod out of the equation ( a big sling shot) ........ these days it would be less of an issue if you used a braid / mono leader combination!
Nagg