Govt proposing to charge vehicles at Teewah, Cooloola beaches and Inskip Point

[Dave Gibson]

To all those who enjoy beach fishing and camping along the Teewah and Cooloola Beaches and up at Inskip Point you may be interested in this report that is seeking public comment.


http://www.epa.qld.gov.au/publications?id=2333 (http://www.epa.qld.gov.au/publications?id=2333)

Key recommendations cover beach closures to vehicle access, proposed speed limits on beaches, camping area management, and the implementation of a RAMS fee to all vehicles who visit the area.

Comments can be sent to Strategic Directions Cooloola, PO Box 64, Bellbowrie QLD 4070 or emailed to cooloola.consultation@epa.qld.gov.au (cooloola.consultation@epa.qld.gov.au)

I've managed to obtain an extension to the public comment period to the 3rd April and would appreciate your contributions to balance out the views put forward by other groups.

Thanks

Dave Gibson MP
Member for Gympie

[Chris Ryan]

Inskip point again trying to be shut off. Geez they don't leave it alone do they. Take away all our rights so kids have to watch the outdoors on a friggin TV.

This is more than annoying or disruptive now. What do you need from us David to help normal Australians being held to ransom by the do gooder greenie types that never even stepped foot in these places let alone seen the way 4wd users treat the area with such care.

Chris

[bondy99]

G'day Chris,

I think the extreme greenie movement wants to do just that. I too seek the great outdoors to get away from the rat race at times and to become one with nature instead of being placed in a paddock like sheep (if you get my drift). Peter

By the way did you end up getting a copy of that DVD the other day?

[Chris Ryan]

I haven't received anything in a while Peter. When did you send it?

[PinHead]

I am starting ot think that the EPA stands for Everyone Packed Away...keep everyone locked in the cities. It is good to conserve the environment but what is the point if no one can go there to enjoy it.
I must admit that a small minority of idiots are making these things happen..I can remember going to Moreton when there were no vehicles there..the only thing you had to worry about on the beach were the brumbies..last time I went there ( about 8 years back)..there were idiots racing up the beach..and they will whinge when they restrict access there also.

[Apollo]

To make things worst, after last weekends election, the new Gympie council has no councillors from the eastern side of Gympie to help stand up for the sensible use of the Cooloola coast rather than it being sold of for developing ie Rainbow Shores developement or locked up to any access.

[PinHead]

To all those who enjoy beach fishing and camping along the Teewah and Cooloola Beaches and up at Inskip Point you may be interested in this report that is seeking public comment.


http://www.epa.qld.gov.au/publications?id=2333 (http://www.epa.qld.gov.au/publications?id=2333)

Key recommendations cover beach closures to vehicle access, proposed speed limits on beaches, camping area management, and the implementation of a RAMS fee to all vehicles who visit the area.

Comments can be sent to Strategic Directions Cooloola, PO Box 64, Bellbowrie QLD 4070 or emailed to cooloola.consultation@epa.qld.gov.au (cooloola.consultation@epa.qld.gov.au)

I've managed to obtain an extension to the public comment period to the 3rd April and would appreciate your contributions to balance out the views put forward by other groups.

Thanks

Dave Gibson MP
Member for Gympie

well Dave..i am afraid to say that the time for writing letters etc to the EPA is over..they do not listen nor do they care..I now have 3 grandchildren..aged 6, 20 months and 4 days..and they are destined to become part of the obesity problem as they will not be able to enjoy outdoor activities which I did in my younger days.

This State is starting to get closed off for outdoor activities just to appease the socialist left faction of the ALP and the associated green movements. I am sick and tired of them. They preach nothing but untruths..the CFC and ozone hole is a perfect example.

When masses of fishermen, 4WD clubs etc have the balls to form a huge rally and drive into Ann St (EPA offices) and Alice Street and get out of their cars and leave them parked blocking these roads will anyone take notice. The general public is oblivious and pathetic. Letter writing only fills the round files in their offices..totally ignored.

[Greg P]

I dont really have an issue with the fees/permits if the money is used correctly. This just brings it along side all the other beach access places (Bribie, Moreton, Fraser etc) and there is a hell of a lot of vehicles and people going there that need to managed in some just form. The alarm bells are ringing about the migratory birds vehicle access restrictions though. I can see that shutting everyone out for certain periods.

[Tangles]

Well a pessimistic view would say this all points to the unstated goal of a total environment lockout in 20-30 years, but you should be happy knowing its still there and seeing it beamed into your living room; I feel sorry for kids born today and in the future as all they will ever know is Green TV with the message of how bad and destructive we are as humans. Will future kids feet be able to touch the sand other than some crowded Gold Coast type beach between flags?

But who would like to bet that the only ones allowed out there will be the worlds protectors, the Greenies who will gladly take your money off you for an eco-tour?

Real problem is that the radical extremists are the most vocal and organised and have a political agenda, the public will happily follow on like mindless sheep to more and more lockouts after being bombarded with the message that the world is coming to an environmental end.

Point Id like to make is that not everything is down to human inhabitation; even with a total lockout the environment will still change and species will go extinct and new species will arrive. Many of the extinctions are conveniently blamed on human activity, climate change and pollution.

There are around 2000 frogs currently on the edge of extinction, but some scientists are coming to the conclusion thats its not all down habitat loss, pollution, global warning etc as many of these are in pristine habitats, they have traced it down to a disease after spending many years trying to establish it was done to climate change etc.

The frog killer disease is from another part of the planet. Question is how has it travelled around the world, humans, winds etc. Maybe climate change is the trigger but who knows, the scientists dont exactly know, but it strikes me that whilst the scientists dont, Greenies apparently do.

Forgive the rant but all i want is proper science.

Mike

[FNQCairns]

Why do we so often say conservation or protection, when overwhelmingly the movement can be seen only by definition of the word preservation!.

Scientology is seen for what it is by most yet they continue to grow both in size and power, green ideology (now governments chosen ideology also) is not seen by most for what it is -what hope does a minority have of educating or swaying against a preservationist philosophy - NONE! ....less than!!

Only votes count, Australia has moved far away from morality, fairness and self respect as in part a guiding force in politics, expecting basic fairness or care in regulation is like fighting the scientologists with logic, who can win when ideology and the arrogance of dogma are the highest of concepts a culture can grasp??

Get political, the sooner it starts the more we hold onto and the quicker it ends.

Without a determined voting bloke behind any just cause these days when working toward a prescribed outcome is like a drunk trying to sweet talk a free beer out of a bartender:-[.

my view.

cheers fnq

[Fafnir]

At this rate most of the closures will be done and dusted by the time any political party with fishing, 4x4 and camping interests at heart gets powerful enough to have an influence. How many elections will there need to be in QLD before the Libs/Nat's get back in power, and what 'green' deal will they themselves have done to get them over the line.

The more I look at it, the more I believe that a fighting fund needs to be collected, and these issues need to be fought out in the courts, not in politicians backrooms.

[PADDLES]

i had a read of the report and can't see a problem, they are advocating greater control of camping and a lowering of speed limits, it's all good stuff. the only vehicle closures are looking like inskip point which has an excellent paved road straight up the guts to access campsites (so why would you feel the need to drive up the beach there and not use the road) and the last little cove up at the point. for sure the closure at the point seems a little bit of a waste of time though. 50km/h on the ocean beach is excellent, we camp and fish and we have got little kids that play on the beach. considering the amount of total tossers that go crazy on the beach spoiling it for all of the rest of us, i reckon a 50 limit is ok.

[Poodroo]

The bottom line is the government is always trying to figure out new ways to get more money out of the tax payers. Remember when they opened the Gateway Bridge and how they allowed the first travellers to go across for free and then started the toll charges? The government promised that once the bridge was paid off the tolls would be lifted. Does anyone else remember that? Well the bridge has been well and truly paid off years ago but have the tolls been lifted? Of course not. They are raking in a lot of revenue from us. It is getting to the point where we will not be able to set foot outside out own front doors without having to pay some sort of levy (and if any governmental bodies read this DO NOT get any ideas). Could call it a Suburbia Departure Tax. Slapped with an SDT when you get out the door, GST when you get out and about, income tax before you get paid, then it goes into the bank where we get slogged with more tax and fees, and then all we want to do is escape and get away from it all but then have to pay toll fees to get across the Gateway, and then if they have their way, fees to get onto the beach. >:( Now I wonder why I am having troubles affording things these days?

Poodroo

[PADDLES]

it's called the "cost of living" poodroo. saving us from ourselves costs the government money.

[CHAPPY]

Had a look at Inskip over the Easter break and the word sardines describes the way campers were packed in. Talked to people there and sleep was not on the menu. People were that close that the card game, drinking session or argo in the next camp was only 10 feet away. Hence no sleep.

We used to camp at Inskip to get away from everyone. That is now not achievable at Inskip. Someone mentioned sheep in a paddock well this is more like a feedlot. It is not the Inskip of old and legislation is required before we love it to death.

The principal I support, but you watch the overkill in legislation. This government is renown for big-stick legislation. Mr Gibson is only one voice.Maybe we should give him a hand.

Chappy

[Celestial_Teapot]

I was up at Inskip this Easter and it was packed out. I don't know if 3000 campers is too much or if it was just full of people camping without a permit but we arrived at 11am on Friday and squeezed two tents into what seemed like the last (tiny) available space. Seems to me that reducing the number of campers there would be a good idea just so that we can all have a bit of space.

Still all aside from all of that it really is the most wonderful spot - I have never been camping anywhere like that before. It certainly beats sitting in a tent in the rain back home! Can't wait to get back up there.