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Alan TSV
03-10-2007, 06:40 PM
I am looking at a 2006 Patriot 680. It is fitted with a (one) 250 ETEC.

I am not interested in the opinions of if it is a good boat etc,,,,

Just interest in fuel figures from those with similar rigs,

My current boat gets 1.3NM per litre.

A normal days fishing is about 80NM travel and 6 hours trolling

There was an american webite that compared fuel rates for all types of motors. I cannot find it now, maybe Kerry can remember this one, it was a few years ago.

Cheers

Alan

FNQCairns
03-10-2007, 06:52 PM
Crikey that's without doubt the best economy I have ever seen for such big HP, Alan was that a slow or a fast cruise for the 80nm portion?

cheers fnq

marco
03-10-2007, 07:16 PM
i had a 200 etec ho , 3.3 litre on a 625 outsider and that was returning .9 to 1.1 km/l . and that was trying to be as economical as i could .

i spoke to a haines rep at the boat show about a 680 patriot with a 200 ho and he reckoned it was getting 2km/l but i think he was full of it .

i did get a few reports faxed to me from brp about fuel tests for different engines and basically 500 kg hulls with any of the big bore etecs returned about 1.8km/l and hulls that wieghed around the 1600 - 1800kg range consumed around the .8 - 1.1 km/l range .

bruce from brp in sydney was most helpful about this and i still have those reports if you cannot get them from him , i would be happy to fax them to you if needed .

i hope that helps
cheers
mark

Alan TSV
03-10-2007, 07:24 PM
Those figures are for my current boat - 90HP Honda :)

I dont expect that on the Patriot

Al

Spaniard_King
03-10-2007, 07:36 PM
Marco is on the money, You could not expect much better that 1.25klm/ liter out of a 680. My new rig is 2T on the water, with the 225 Honda I am getting 1.25klm / litre

Alan TSV
03-10-2007, 08:06 PM
That is about what I expect, thanks Gary & Marco

1.3Nm/l is about the same as 2.4 k/l

therfore my fuel usage would be around double

leezor
03-10-2007, 08:55 PM
Hi Alan,

There is a review on Boatpoint which may be of interest to you mate -
Here is part of the review

"Mounted on a Haines Hunter 680 Patriot, spinning a 19-inch pitch Evinrude Viper stainless steel prop and pushing a total of 2100kg, our demo 250 averaged 56.4km/h, and 36lt/h when cruising at 4000rpm. There was no prop ventilation through full-lock figure-of-eight turns at these revs."

Here is a link to the article
http://www.boatpoint.com.au/boat-review/2335356.aspx

Cheers,

Lee

disorderly
03-10-2007, 09:23 PM
Hey Lee,

You operate a comparable rig.
What hull weight are you pushing and how does the suzi compare to the above economy figures?

Scott

SeaSaw
03-10-2007, 09:27 PM
I have an older 680sf with a 225 4 stroke. It gets between 1km/l and 1.2km/l depending on weather conditions, number of people on board, weight of all the fish on board ::)

Cheers,

Mark

leezor
03-10-2007, 09:43 PM
Hey Scott, the SF20 hull comes in at around 750kg so is a fair bit lighter than the 680.
My 225hp Suzuki gets around 1.7-1.8km/l at just over 4000rpm according to my Lowrance NMEA 2000 setup(see attachment)


Lee

Luke G
03-10-2007, 09:46 PM
For what its worth our old 680 Encore with a 250 suzuki used to average 1.4-1.6km/l. At 4000 rpm we would burn 25litres give or take a litre or so sitting around 23-24knots. Flat out the fuel flow meter said 55l an hour at 40 knots.

Cheers

disorderly
03-10-2007, 09:50 PM
Hey Scott, the SF20 hull comes in at around 750kg so is a fair bit lighter than the 680.
My 225hp Suzuki gets around 1.7-1.8km/l at just over 4000rpm according to my Lowrance NMEA 2000 setup(see attachment)


Lee

Still ,they are pretty sweet figures for a 225hp.Very impressive indeed.

leezor
03-10-2007, 10:08 PM
They are pretty good, though they way I drive my figures are a more like 1.5-1.6km/l ;)
Even at WOT it's still getting around 1.2 km/l, thats just over 80km/h

Lee

Shanoss
04-10-2007, 06:04 AM
My Haines V213 Would be closer to the weight of the Patriot. And like Lee, i have the NMEA harness fitted so my fuel figures are pretty accurate. With a 200 Suzuki i'm getting a bit better than a litre a mile at cruising speed (4000-4200Rpm). Last trip out i did 110miles for 115 litres. but quite a bit of that was at WOT.

FNQCairns
04-10-2007, 07:16 AM
Those figures are for my current boat - 90HP Honda :)

I dont expect that on the Patriot

Al

LOL thanks for clearing that up, didn't want to be rude:) but still you get better out of your 90 than I do out of mine:-[

cheers fnq

Dicko
04-10-2007, 11:38 AM
Way to go Al. I saw that in the paper the other day.

Grab it quickly to use down at Faust next week instead of Garys.

GBC
04-10-2007, 12:16 PM
the 225 etec on the 680 sc runs around 40/per hr cruising at more than 4000 less than 5000.

I wouldn't bank on getting less than 40/hr.

C.J.

dazza
05-10-2007, 07:37 AM
hi,
have got old 680 hull, with a 2004 225hp 4st yammie, almost 500 hours on the engine,
i use 30-35l/hr doing 4200-4500rpm, my fuel flow meter is reasonably accurate
cheers
dazza

rat_catcher
05-10-2007, 07:47 PM
For some extra data to compare, I have a Signature 702L with a 250hp Suzuki and have a Navman 6600 with the fuel sensor fitted. At 4,200rpm I sit on 26 knots and get 0.65nm per litre, which is about 40 litres per hour.

ozbee
07-10-2007, 04:55 PM
i have a new 680 patriot with the duel motor extension running a 250 etec . trailing you will use about 3.7 litres an hour bloody unbelievable cruising around 30 to 35 litres wot around 60 to 70 but your doing over 50 mph im swinging a 15.5x17 . it is a pretty much all round prop whether your loaded full of monkeys or not performance is much the same. i have to admit the 250 etec throttle response in and out in a big swell is just plain awesome compared to 4 strokes ive compared it to the same boat with a 250 4st yamaha anyhow either motor its a very sweet rig.

brush
11-10-2007, 09:30 AM
Hey Alan,
Have a look at Peter Websters site, its a ripper.
Peter and his offsider conduct real fuel tests on the boats he reviews.
You may find what you are looking for here.
www.sealibrary.com.au (http://www.sealibrary.com.au)
Cheers Brush