Ausfish bass diary. What can guarantee you fish?

[Jeremy87]

After reading Jamies post "I can guarantee you fish" i began thinking about fishing diaries and different weather/ climate conditions that affect fishing and if you could actually scientifically prove if certain wether these conditions affect fishing. The problem with a diary from just one person is the sample size is too small and open to too much bias. However if everyone on ausfish kept a diary then and we compiled the data we could gather quite a large collection. So heres my proposal.

If people post on this thread key information about their catches i will collect the data and at the end of each month give a little statistical report.

I will need to know;
The date
Location (wild or stocked impoundment)
total hours fished
number of fish caught per boat (group if land based)
land based or fromm an boat/canoe/kayak
time of day (evening, morning, midday, afternoon)
barometric pressure.

To keep the data set closed we will restrict the species to bass only

It is important that if you contribute data that you report ALL your catches for that month or the data will become biased, even if you catch nothing as we may learn more from these days then from days when the fishing is hot.

If anyone else wants to add to the list of observations we want to record feel welcome.

Good fishing everyone
Jeremy

[Jeremy87]

Ok i'll kick it off, I had i quick flick down the nerang this arvo from the canoe. The fresh water is seriuosly choked up with weed at the moment so it made fishing almost impossible.

So results are

2/10/07, wild, 2hours, 3fish, boat, arvo, 1016 steady

thanks to the mods for making it sticky
Jeremy

[mod5]

thanks to the mods for making it sticky

No problem

[oldboot]

This could be a great thing..... i mean a serious reasearch project.


But


We need some sort of specification for the data set and a specified way of reporting so that the data can be analised...


are there any data base gurus out there.

I mean some stuff is obvious or able to be extrapolated from known data.

date , time and location should yeild all the time tide and moon data.

there needs to be an easy way of expressing a variety of other factors.

air and water temp would be good and easy enough to get

but you get where i'm going.

cheers

[Jeremy87]

This could be a great thing..... i mean a serious reasearch project.


But


We need some sort of specification for the data set and a specified way of reporting so that the data can be analised...


are there any data base gurus out there.

I mean some stuff is obvious or able to be extrapolated from known data.

date , time and location should yeild all the time tide and moon data.

there needs to be an easy way of expressing a variety of other factors.

air and water temp would be good and easy enough to get

but you get where i'm going.

cheers

Yeh mate for sure, i'm collecting about 12 variables including weather data from the bom, giving a rough indication of locations ie tweed river or somerset dam etc when reporting data aswell will give me an idea of local atmospheric conditions. If people wish to add water temp i will also include it but i think water temp in itself is too variable as it can change by several degrees throughout a days fishing/thermoclines/shade etc. To start with i want to focus on simple abiotic factors. moon phase, barometer, time of day. Stuff like rainfall air temp aswell will come into play in the long run. But what we will really need most of all is data entries and lots of them. Then i can work out a fish per hour average for individuals and then begin weighting results so i can gain a quantitative perspective of whats a good and bad day.

alright guys go get some fish

[Sean]

http://www.bom.gov.au/products/IDN65188.shtml
good place to get obs. after a session

[Sean]

http://www.bom.gov.au/products/IDQ60800.shtml
qld one

[Sean]

29/9/07 Clarrie hall dam-0500-1000, 2days after full, 0-10knt Northerly, 1013-1015 baro, 4 fish

[Sean]

8/9/2007 Clarrie Hall Dam, 0500-1000, 3 before new, 10-20 knt SW, 1016Rising, 10fish

[rayken1938]

Hinze dam 3/9 6.30 am till 1 pm. 3 in boat .barometer unknown.16 bass .
Cheers
Ray

[park]

Guys, there's a fishing diary website that may be exactly what you are looking for. fishingsolutions.com.au - I put all my catches in there and analyse the results through reports.

[Sean]

hi park, your first 'thanks'....you should make a speech!!!

[Jeremy87]

Guys, there's a fishing diary website that may be exactly what you are looking for. fishingsolutions.com.au - I put all my catches in there and analyse the results through reports.

Do you need to be a member to get the full display of data or is it just fish length, species etc? What I'm hoping to eventually achieve through statistical analysis is to determine what climatic conditions are likely to yeild better catches instead of a data log entry.

[jamie martin]

8/10/2007 5.30am to 9.30am ,tweed river weir (fresh) 8 fish (30cm to 36cm) caught by me in my boat water temp 23
jamie

[Pumba]

7/10/07 Hinze Dam 6am to 11am Boat Water Temp 22-23 10kn Northerly 9 Bass

8/10/07 Hinze Dam 6am to 9am Boat Water Temp 22-23 10kn Northerly 12 Bass

Cheers,
Matt

[MitchCalcutt]

14/10/07 Hinze dam 5am to 9.45 9 bass, 1 poper 4 trolling 4 on Bass Trix Biggest 37cm.
Barometer 1020. Should have been a hot session

[jamie martin]

tweed river weir freshwater, 14/10/2007 500am to 10.30 am 4 bass caught by me in my boat

[fishfreak]

north pine dam 6:30 to 7:30am 5 bass 16th oct 07 wind changed stopped bite!

[jamie martin]

tweed weir freshwater, 18/10/2007 6.00am to 1100am my brother caught 2 and i caught 12 in my boat water temp 21
jamie

[jamie martin]

tweed weir, 7.00am to 1130am, 20/10 /2007. my girlfreind DEbbie caught 2 and i caught 2 in my boat.
jamie

[killitfillit]

water, that is all you need there will be some fish in there somewhere

[BLOOEY]

12/11/07,Wild bass between brissy and goldy.Barometer 1019hpa.Rainy periods,From a kayak,3 bass and lost one that stole my jackall.1 hit on the surface,biggest about 40.3pm till 5pm Ben

[BLOOEY]

15/11/07,Wild bass between brissy and goldy,Barometer 1016hpa and rising.5.30 till 6.Land based.1 Bass 52cm.

[Jeremy87]

Thanks guys for keeping the posts coming, I'm still short of data to start making any generalisations, i haven't been after the bass myself for a while because of exams but my schedule has freed up a bit now, though i'm probably going to put a bit more time into jacks than bass this summer.
anyway good fishing guys
Jeremy

[BLOOEY]

Wild bass.Between brissy and goldy.Barometer 1016hpa rising again 5-6pm,landbased 4 bass 38-40cm.

[Jeremy87]

Lake Lenthalls 7 bass in the mid 40ies fishing from about 9-12

[SWANY22]

npd avro sesh 430 to 630 land base brom 1000 no fish fished spinners and crank baits .weather was overcast

[Jeremy87]

hey all who is still interested in doing this? seems to be alot of bass getting caught but not alot of entries being made. I still don't really have a big enough sample size to put anything together.

[alphas]

5/5/08 maroon dam..6 bass,barometer 1020,3 hour session 2pm to 5pm,all on spinnerbaits-hope this helps.

[alphas]

oops-31,32,35x3,one not measured....

[arashsamali]

Ok i'll kick it off, I had i quick flick down the nerang this arvo from the canoe. The fresh water is seriuosly choked up with weed at the moment so it made fishing almost impossible.

So results are

2/10/07, wild, 2hours, 3fish, boat, arvo, 1016 steady

thanks to the mods for making it sticky
Jeremy

27/01/08, impoundment Crams farm nth nsw, lure, 2 hrs, 1 35cm Bass, arvo, no wind. no idea about barometric pressure :(

[SNARKER73]

Just got back from Maroon. 20/7/08 impoundment, 3 of us, Bait (shrimp) morning, 6 hrs, no wind, total 32 bass, 5= 35-31cm rest were all under.

[modo]

Somerset dam 31/08/08. Start fishing at 7.45am stop fishing at 2.00pm. Thew Jackell's, Sp's and spinerbaits for nill result. Bait shows good, no active fish, some surface shows. New moon phase wind from North at approx. 5/15 knots at times.

[2manylures]

What if anything have you been able to deduce from this valued information?

Absolutely nothing i would imagine.

[Dodge41]

27.9.08 GC lakes, Water temp 21C, bar 1015, trolling HBs 4.30-6pm, 1 bass 33cms

8.10.08 GC lakes, water temp 25C, bar 1018, trolling Hbs 8.30-noon, 1 bass 37cms and 1x 27cms est

[SEC]

25/9/08 approx 5am,air temp approx 11C,water temp unknown,baro1012 and rising(checked before departure),no fish but 2 stikes on suface lures+ surface action everywhere at North pine

[natho]

Ture that 2manylure .load of crap .its easy to catch bass when u understand them fully. i think its a just another way to find out peoples spots and how to fish them myself .you's are fishing bass not jewies!!

[Whitto]

My mistake sorry

[Jeremy87]

What if anything have you been able to deduce from this valued information?

Absolutely nothing i would imagine.

Even if we don't identify any trends in doing so we are still learning something i.e that none of the theories behind pressure etc can be validated and therefore the best time to go fishing is whenever you can, something i've always personally believed. I have been a bit lax with reporting catches myself and haven't really been following this thread. We still really don't have a very good data set, one day if i'm bored i may actually go through the reports section and make up a very simple hit miss data set but again we have the whole problem of people not reporting when they haven't caught fish which is just as important. The problem is using many different anglers with a variety of experience over different locations offers no level of control. For example my recent efforts at wivenhoe with uni, it took me 3 trips on the water before i found the fish, when i found the fish it wasn't until the end of a 3 day weekend fishing that i figured out how to best catch them. This means that the number of fish caught on any of these 6 days does not reflect the "mood" of the fish or how hot the bite was, only my experience on that dam and my knowledge as an angler. Similarly a second boat on the water on those same days fishing the same locations caught far fewer fish than in did, again a reflection of angler skill rather than how hot the bite was.

So in many ways yes your right, we haven't really been able to come up with anything. But its always good to hear some constructive imput into a topic of mutual interest.

[Raydog]

30/01/09, somerset dam, 11 knots easterly, water temp 26 degrees, 3 bass fish caught btween 0730 to 0830

[ockoman]

pelican waters golf course caloundra,wednesday 15th april 2009, 2 fish,6:00-1:05

[alphas]

What if anything have you been able to deduce from this valued information?

Absolutely nothing i would imagine.

Always looking on the bright side,are'nt you:-/
Robina Lakes 30/4/09-land based-NO FISH !!!

Are you still interested in this Jeremy??

[woody74]

cressbrook dam 21.11.09 on water at about 3.00pm. sounded fish at about 13 to 15 feet. Clear skies, hot day water temp not known but bloody hot. 3 legal yellas, one 35 one 38 and a thick 47, and the regular smallish bass with a few near legals. Most bass on shrimp few on diving lures, all yellas on shrimp. CHEERS woody

[Lucky_Phill]

bump, bumpty bump bump.


LP.
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[Obi _ Wan]

Thanks Phill

You bass fisho's need to post moe on this thread to get it to stay up otherwise it may dissapear again

Cheers,
John.