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MEGA'bite
13-08-2007, 06:26 PM
Set off to barwon banks on thursday morning the 9th only to find to my discussed >:( approx 15 well and truely under sized snapper/squire and a number of parrot fish frames lulling about in the water near the walk/way ramp to the pontoon.

What is to become of this senceless taking of under sized fish.:-/

I think the penalities need to be hasher;) .
It needs to get through to these thick heads if you take take take undersized fish then there will be nothing left to take:o
what r your thoughts fellow Ausfishers on hasher penalities, and what should they be. Be realistic of course.

goddy100
13-08-2007, 06:49 PM
while harsher penalties sound good, they are useless if they cannot be enforced. How would have harsher penalties have stopped those people, who got clean away with it. More fisheries officers, and better education. You would be surprised how many people just fish occasionally and have no idea of the rules.

Goddy

GAFYM
13-08-2007, 10:44 PM
Harsher penalties... Fine...
Education....Fine
But would it have happened if Fisheries Patrol Officers (or an equivalent organisation) (now there's a pertinent query) were on hand at the ramp to check??
They have Neighbourwood Watch....why not Boat Ramp Watch. (i know it sounds silly but !!!}

gawby
14-08-2007, 07:20 AM
I agree with bigger fines and more Fisheries Officers as i have nothing to hide when i come back to the ramp.
I remember some posts not so long ago about blokes whinging about fisheries and getting fined and so on but if you have it all in place you wouldn't worry about a bigger enforcement.
Graeme

maztez
14-08-2007, 07:34 AM
Totally agree Graham ,however the neighbourhood watch is not such a bad idea as one would only be protecting the future of our beloved sport .
cheers Terry

Dantren
14-08-2007, 08:50 AM
I too would be dissappointed in seeing such disrespect for our environment.

How about if we introduce licences like NSW. I would be happy to pay a fee. This may inject enough funds for greater fisheries patrols.

* Ever wondered why you don't see fisheries officers around brisbane & moreton bay on weekends?? - Because the budget only allows Pinkenba fisheries officers to work weekdays only!!!!

goddy100
14-08-2007, 09:18 AM
I remember seeing a show on NZ fishing, and that they employed fishermen to police the waterways. Maybe something like that here??

Greg P
14-08-2007, 10:14 AM
* Ever wondered why you don't see fisheries officers around brisbane & moreton bay on weekends?? - Because the budget only allows Pinkenba fisheries officers to work weekdays only!!!!

Yep - well said.

They dont even have enough money to fuel the boats to patrol where they want too - more Beattie magic.

craig51063
14-08-2007, 10:32 AM
just a quick note ... if you see someone doing the wrong thing take down all the particulars you can,even photos and dob these people in to the relevent agentcies .licence plate numbers so they can be identefied .i have been told that these departments DO act on reports but they need evedence not just h i saw these people doing this ' [ i know this was not the case here] i willingly pay for a fishing licence in the beliefe that more inspectors are being employed do deal with sort of behavior.[ as you can see i cant spell ] .:o

lie loud enough and for long enough and eventually the masses will believe you

sharkymark2
14-08-2007, 11:40 AM
I eported a fish shop at Sunnybank for having all these mud crab claws. They looked like female crab claws. You know a bit shallower in width and shorter in length. It turns out that they got them from new south wales. HMMMMMMMMMMMMMM. But the fisheries did go out to inspect.

mattooty
14-08-2007, 02:46 PM
I think that the fines are prettymuch fine the way they are.
What needs to be done through all the states is a higher officer presence. Its just like speeding,the fines arent really that great, but you only need to be wacked once or twice and you soon learn.
The neighbourhood watch seems best but once again, i dont know of any organisation that could provide insurance, the relevant legalities of it all and the blanket coverage that the idea needs.
Personally i wouldnt want to be putting in place my name or company or organisation on a group of what, when it comes down to it, are vigilantes. I can easily see blokes, either in the right or wrong getting the sh!t bashed out of them. Both the neighbbourhood watch guys and the boaties.
Matt

gone_fishing
14-08-2007, 05:18 PM
educaion is the key
they can put a couple of signs at popular spots that inform poeple of what fish are around and what regulations are in force
seen some out west with protected species

ashh
14-08-2007, 06:12 PM
surely they could afford to have signs put up in popular parks backing onto waterways and jettys etc, with a list and piccys of the most commonly caught fish species and there corresponding size/bag limits.
Kind of like the surf life saving signs you see that descibe where to swim, what the flags mean and the dangers of the surf, all printed in a few different languages too.

Great White
14-08-2007, 07:55 PM
Hi Adrian, I just do not understand why this happens >:( it's the few that wreck it for the many!!!!!

Those caught should have their gear and boat taken off of them for a period of time and a heavy fine :o they may start to take things more serious!!!!

Did you get many fish ????

haggis
14-08-2007, 09:07 PM
no matter what the fines are or even if they had a boat ramp watch ,there will always be people flouting the law & getting away with it . gives good law abiding fishermen a bad name ........
cheers fae haggis......................................

Chas & Clarry
15-08-2007, 01:21 PM
I'm a big fan of education being the main way forward, but unfortunately there needs to be the big stick option too.

Maybe I'm naive, but I can't see how more inspectors wouldn't be a self funding proposition, (at least until word got around that the Govt was serious about policing this). Given the number of undersized fish that I used to see being taken by land based fishos around Bris, and up the coast when I used to fish that way, any inspector would make a profit from fines vs labour costs on any night!! OK, getting off shore would be more expensive, but maybe land based inspectors would make enough money to cover the cost of more in boats??

It is definitely the minority of fishos who do it, but a minority can still be a lot of people when we are talking about a something as popular as fishing. Get the inspectors out there I recon. I've never seen anyone questioned by fisheries ever...maybe I don't fish in the right places...!!

C&C

castlemaine
15-08-2007, 02:01 PM
Sorry to say that not many people know or have gone out of their way to find out the regulations. Last weekend I saw a few boats were fishing in the protection zone on Peel. One boat was racing behind the Hanlon markers and hit ground, didn't stop him from ploughing harder. He wouldn't have seen the protection zone sign because he was behind it. What can you do apart from shaking your head? It does make you mad because it gives all fishers a bad reputation.

Crisp Bee
17-08-2007, 08:38 AM
Education is a terrific start. Perhaps more of the fishing regulations knowledge should be made as a part of the proceedure to get a boat license, and Fishing License. I would gladly pay a yearly fee as a fishing license to help pay the wages of more fisheries inspectors.....
Also remember the Recreational fishing industry does already inject a large amount of money into the Government coffers, through taxes on fishing gear etc. So the Govt needs to protect our fisheries, and having extra inspectors at peak times would not go astray.
I reckon the worst part is that the majority of people who continue to take undersized fish and illegal crabs etc. will still continue to do so even when caught.
They are the ones who need to be stopped. Repeat offenders should be shown no mercy.