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Splash
14-06-2007, 02:17 PM
Hi Team.

I am seeking an alternative to marine carpet.

Whent to Carpet Bob's in Cairns and checked out a rubber type flooring used on tourism fishing/diving boats.

I tis called Vynalite and Heronair.

The vynalite is much better for feet fatigue than carpet is and can be easily taken out for washing etc.

Thougts?

Splash

Noelm
14-06-2007, 03:07 PM
only problem I have found with anything that can be removed, (not glued down in other words) is if you happen to have to lean right over/out to grab something in the water or wash your hands and it slips right out from under your feet, you either fracture your ribs and kill your belly or worse still, fall in.

tiny_tinny
14-06-2007, 03:09 PM
Splash, you must spend lots of time fishing if carpet causes foot fatigue - half your luck mate.

Mike

Splash
14-06-2007, 03:48 PM
OK - What about rubber backed carpet - pros and cons please?

Splash

CHAPPY
14-06-2007, 04:10 PM
Hi Splash, Re your carpet problem, my last 2 boats I fitted out with Walkertex. a rubber backed carpet used in hospitals etc. Must be glued down but does not snag prawn-heads, hooks and other ruffage. I glued it to 1/4inch ply and found it drains rather than dries. I would not use anything else.
Worth a look.
Bush Budah

freddofrog
14-06-2007, 04:44 PM
My boat came with a mesh like rubber tube covering thing - see attached photo. It is something like you would find in workplaces for people who have to stand in the same spot all day.

Try and find and sus it out. For my purposes it's great, you can stand on it all day, it very tough and hard wearing, doesn't move even though it's not glued down, doesn't absord fish smells, blood etc and after a day out I can just hose it off.

As my boat is left outside and not under cover, it's good as even marine carpet will go mouldy if left out.

Down side is it is relatively heavy being made out of rubber but then again the boat's never complained ;)

If you need something that looks good then maybe not this stuff but mines a fishing boat so for me it's not an issue.

cya
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Splash
14-06-2007, 04:50 PM
Thanks.

I thought rubber backed carpet did not drain as rubber would keep moisture in.

The stuff that freddofrog shows is liek that Vynalite I was referring to.

Great input guys!

Splash

Chimo
14-06-2007, 04:53 PM
Hi All

While I haven't used it in a boat as yet, but I will eventually, I think cork flooring tiles, glued and sealed as for a house, would have a lot of potential. You can cut them to fit hatches etc with no problems and seal the edges where you need to.

We have had in numerous houses for about 30 yrs so far and through the current place for about eight yrs including the wet areas ie bathrooms and laundry where there have been multiple floods including a full split hot water service and it seems really durable. Even with the 170 degree hot water; no probs.

Certainly soft on feet, and plates?

Anyone got any thoughts on this?

Cheers
Chimo

Splash
14-06-2007, 05:11 PM
Great idea Chimo.

How woudl direct sunlight affect these cork tiles?

Freddo Frog
Is the stuff you show have grip on each strand or simply tubular?
And, how do u find stuff getting inside those grooves - what degree does this occur?

freddofrog
14-06-2007, 05:14 PM
I like your "out of the box thinking" there Chimo. My main concerns would be the UV stability of the sealer and also what happens when the seal is broken, eg hooks/sinkers stepped on, eskys, gaff hooks etc

Wahoo
14-06-2007, 05:14 PM
Hi All

While I haven't used it in a boat as yet, but I will eventually, I think cork flooring tiles, glued and sealed as for a house, would have a lot of potential. You can cut them to fit hatches etc with no problems and seal the edges where you need to.

We have had in numerous houses for about 30 yrs so far and through the current place for about eight yrs including the wet areas ie bathrooms and laundry where there have been multiple floods including a full split hot water service and it seems really durable. Even with the 170 degree hot water; no probs.

Certainly soft on feet, and plates?

Anyone got any thoughts on this?

Cheers
Chimo

Chimo
i was only talking about the cork tiles on Tuesday LOL, i am going thru the same prob as i dont have any covering ATM, how would it be glued down?

Daz

Splash
14-06-2007, 05:36 PM
Here is a colour brochure of Vynalite - Thoughts?

Splash

death_ship
14-06-2007, 05:37 PM
how about plain old marine deck grip painted on? and a pair of thongs for the fatigue?

Splash
14-06-2007, 05:47 PM
who wears thongs onboard boats?

Wahoo
14-06-2007, 05:48 PM
Here is a colour brochure of Vynalite - Thoughts?

Splash

thanks Cam,
this must the one my neighbour was talking about, do you know the size of this on the roll? and $$ per L/M ?.......... looks good

Daz

Splash
14-06-2007, 06:20 PM
Daz,

Pretty exy stuff mate.

Around $80 per meter, comes in 0.9m and 1.2m widths I think.

To me - this material is the best compromise I can find to covering my boat floor..

Cameron

the_bomber
14-06-2007, 09:16 PM
My two cents:
Anything that is not wide enough to cover the deck and needs joins tends to sit up at the edges and is a major trip hazard on a boat rocking on the briney.
A covering with gaps in it like the vynalock is a pain when sinkers crap guts hooks etc fall in them and get caught necessitating lifting of covering etc and is harder to wash down at sea with a deck wash. Same sort of things in pubs and had to move the mats when hosing down at night.
Carpet sucks with getting wet snagging holding water guts sand and when wet adds alot of weight
I think the answer is in industrial type floor covering. At the local super market they laid a rubberised floor outside on the footpath at the entrance to the shops in the weather presumably for its non slip properties and it has seems to wear ok so far given the traffic and exposure to uv light. That I think would be the answer imo. doesnt snag can be washed down and has a slight give to be a little more comfortable underfoot. I have no idea what it is called but a call to the centre management and onto the contractor may bear fruit if some one is interested. The centre is Birkdale Fair in Brisbane. I am struggling to get home at a decent hour at the moment and do not have time to call during business hours. So if you are interested and find out what it is please post the results
Rob

Splash
14-06-2007, 09:33 PM
Thanks Bomber - I will try and follow thi slead tomorrow - my last day of leave for a while..

I totally agree you about what you said re: carpets and Vynalock. Will seek more answers to what seems to be a common re-curring concern.

Splash

Chimo
14-06-2007, 09:34 PM
Hi Corkers

From what I can see of cork you would use the normal adhesive as you do in a house to stick it down, sand it back if you want it really flat as in the house and then roll on the 3 or 4 coats of sealer as you do in a house with a light sand between coats.

For hatches bins etc I guess you would have them open to do the sealing to get the edges around the bins and the lids.

As I mentioned earlier ours, in the laundry, has had water out of a split HWS and several washing machine loads on it with no ill effects. I cant see that splashing or washing a boat out is any different to the way we clean it normally anyway.

Hooks etc would not catch on it or get into the surface unless you stood on a trebble and pushed I doubt it would hook in, certainly a single or gang hook on the flat would not do anything.

As I said I haven't done it yet but cannot see why it would not work well. It is a softer surface than timber or plate and nicer, easier to maintain surface than teak and certainly would be cooler on the feet in the sun than the artificial plastic teak.

In the house the sun impact tends to lighten the colour, where we have scatter rugs or carpet laying on it the colour stays as original. Either way is fine and still sealed.

PS I don't sell cork or lay it, but we did find the best specialist on the Coast to do ours for us.

Chimo

Splash
14-06-2007, 09:42 PM
Chimo.

How big is each cork piece?

How do they fit together?

What is the name of your dealer?

What is the name of the cork brand you use?

Thickness of this cork?

Doe sit absorb any water at all?

Splash

Chimo
14-06-2007, 10:01 PM
Hi Splash

Tomorrow for most of your questions,

but if its sealed then no it doesnt absorb water eg bathrooms and laundry (probably double as a bit of extra bouyancy too I guess; not here, but in a boat!)

The squares just butt together, Ill hunt up some other info tomorrow

Where are you located, I'm GC as you would know from the signature.

Cheers
Chimo

Splash
14-06-2007, 10:26 PM
HI Chimo - currently in Cairns - will be in Gove NT on a permananet basis from mid July.

Splash (Smelly)

dnej
14-06-2007, 11:55 PM
Splash,
The pics I posted, on the bunks, show outdoor carpet, used around swimming pools etc.
Mine is blue, but you get it in green,and stripes as well. Glues onto alumimium easily,as you can see in the bunk well
Got it from Clarke rubber.It is very thin, and can be bent round edges, and corners easily.Fixed it down with velcro,easy to lift out, being light, hang on the fence, and hose off.
Great stuff
David

Splash
15-06-2007, 04:09 AM
Thanks Dnej.

Is thi sthe rubber backed stuff?

I hear this stuff holds water because of the rubber - tru?

Splash

Dunco
15-06-2007, 07:01 AM
Got a pair of Wetsuit slipon shoes that last about a year. for $20 cheaper than carpet and easier to clean than carpet.

Splash
15-06-2007, 07:07 AM
Fantastic IDea Dunco !!

What do u have on your floor then?

Chimo
15-06-2007, 08:20 AM
Rubber boots, watch out for foot rot:o

Cork size is approx 1 ft and very square and abt 1/4" thick, they butt together.

PM being sent with other details

Cheers
Chimo::)

Splash
15-06-2007, 08:27 AM
Thanks for Chiming in Chimo!

Noelm
15-06-2007, 09:15 AM
I have seen some pictures in magazines of girls wearing thongs on boats and they looked great, woops hang on, we are talking about thongs for the feet aren't we?

dnej
15-06-2007, 09:29 AM
Splash,
The outdoor carpet, has a vey light rubber backing.Seems to be build into the material
Made of heavy-duty 100% polypropylene fibre it features benefits including the fact that it will not rot or smell, therefore making it an ideal floorcovering for commercial use in areas such as offices, hospitals, showrooms, community buildings etc
Also boats of course.

Bunnings have som I believe, but as I said, I got mine from Clarke rubber.
Regards David

Alex9797
15-06-2007, 09:31 AM
Giday all,

chimo you can get a sealer that is uv resistant, the main problem may be how slippery the surface becomes once wet. When we used to muck around on sailing dighies we would add suger the the top coat which would leave you with a non slip surface.

cheers

Alex

mirage
15-06-2007, 10:08 AM
Gday Splash and all,
3 of us fished a recent tournament in a mates boat with that vynalite or similar tubular flooring that they use in bars. At first we liked it but by the end of a days hard fishing in poor weather and standing up all day keeping our balance our bare feet were killing us. They were really quite sore from standing on the small tubes. The stuff is designed for barmen with shoes on I guess!
On the second day of the tournament the 3 deckies all brought a pair of thongs/old sand shoes and our feet were fine.
The skipper, whose feet were fine, reckoned we were a bunch of whingers but he was sitting down at the helm most of the time driving trying to find us some billies!
Just my observations, Scotty.

seatime
15-06-2007, 10:59 AM
got the Vynalite in my boat, great for work, doesn't move around or curl up at all, haven't experienced the sore feet yet, only standing for about 3 hrs at a time.
only complaint would be it gets slippery with blood and slime and with the deck tilting it could be dangerous, keep a brush handy. took it out for Fraser and used cheap foamy interlocking camping mats, they worked fine, soft & non-slip.

_Dan_
15-06-2007, 11:24 AM
Got some thick rubber sheets about 30mm thick from the markets out on the bayside, they are 1mtr sheets and they are made from recycled car tyres, non slip, dont detoriate, soft to stand on, not noisy and look the goods. Little bit heavy though. .

Each sheet was about $15 from memory..

Cheers

Dan

snappa
15-06-2007, 01:28 PM
i do .... great

Splash
15-06-2007, 05:43 PM
All,

Great input - and fantastic key learnings.

I have committed to rubber backed denim blue carpet from Clarks ( as rec. by some on this thread and elswhere) - the better rubber backed stuff - with the glue used to stick down turf.

Every option was considered, so I really hope I have chosen well.

Have a great weeknd!

dnej
15-06-2007, 06:01 PM
Hi Spash,
Yep, that was me about the blue carpet.It is great to work with,light,doesnt catch on anything,hoses down well,and has a great long life.Not as flash as some, but designed for the purpose.
Its great also, if you want to glue it on to sections, that you want to lift up, as you can fold it easily around corners.
Also no wastage, as being thin,it joins easily,and makes a neat join.
David
Got some info on the mesh for your bunks coming.Have spoken to my contact.It is a PVC coated mesh apparently.

Splash
16-06-2007, 12:04 AM
Thansk mate.

My clock is running out and my time to cart the boat to GOVE has now arrived.

Splash