What Sort Of Fish Is It

[Chezzy13]

Hi guys, my son came running inside to me today and was shouting mum come look, there is BIG fish in our creek, I said naaa cant be, we dont get Big fish this far up the creek, he said we have, we have, so I went for a walk just down a little and saw them 3 big ones, one just near our home laying near the tunnels, and 2 other bigger ones on the other side of our tunnel..Potty mullet had had a good feed, so had the muddies by the look, but "WHAT" type is it, to me it looks like some sort of mackerel, they were a fair size, I wonder what happened for them to be right up where we are??????

Can anyone identify exactly what type they are..Poor Blighters..:(
They look small in the pics but they were a few kilos I can tell ya..:o

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[Jono_SS]

they look like mac tuna to me.

where is your creek?

[Chezzy13]

Thats what I thought too, Mactuna, was just looking them up??
Why are they this far up?? So weird, unless a shark has driven them, then they have lost thier way maybe??

[Blackened]

G'day

Where is your creek??

I'd say someone had dumped them

Dave

[Chezzy13]

Why dump 3 good size mactuna??? What a waste of life, if they didnt want them, then they should of released them..
We have a nice long run off of the Tally creek..When high tides come thru it can get quiet lovely..

[Chezzy13]

We have had a good run of big bucks this season here in the creek, so maybe they dumped them to atrract some, who knows, just seems weird, they are decent size fish.

[Blackened]

G'day

Fair enough they're decent sized but they are mac tuna, no good to eat.

Why do people dump things?? your guess is as good as mine.

At the ramp thismorning when I came in, there was a dead stingray on the ramp that had one of its wings cut off....... you work that out

Dave

[Chezzy13]

Mmmmm wondered if they were good eating or not..


At the ramp thismorning when I came in, there was a dead stingray on the ramp that had one of its wings cut off....... you work that out


Yea its horrible isn't it, why do things like that ..There is just NO need..:(

[onerabbit]

Kev may disagree,

but I have tried ray, I wouldn't bother.

Muzz

[kingtin]

Mmmmm wondered if they were good eating or not..




Yea its horrible isn't it, why do things like that ..There is just NO need..:(


Could be that someone had been sharking as sting ray flap is a killer bait.......no excuse for dumping the rest though. Also, when you flap 'em, the liver drops out and apart from making good berley, it is also a delicacy amongst some ethnic folk. Yolgnu style the stigray is gutted and the liver kept. The ray is boiled and then the meat is separated from the cartilage. Some re boil the meat and then rub the raw liver through the meat. The meat is then rolled into balls and eaten either as they are or in coconut milk. You can add some Thai spices to the coconut milk and you have a proper gourmet meal.

If you want to try eating stingie, there is some good recipes here:

http://fooddownunder.com/cgi-bin/search.cgi?q=stingray

Also, any recipes applicable to skate work with stingray

http://www.cookitsimply.com/category-0020-0107l.html

Enjoy http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/23/23_146_5.gif

kev

[Chezzy13]

Thanks for that Kingtin, will have a look at those recipes, cheers..:)

[littlejim]

Maybe someone with a punch turned the ray wing into scallops for the local servo club.

[sambos]

Why Do People Catch An Kill Fish Then Dump Them .although Mac Tuna Are Not High On The Menu Its A Great Waste Of Life. We Should Look After Our Resources. What A Disgrace.

[Chezzy13]

although Mac Tuna Are Not High On The Menu Its A Great Waste Of Life. We Should Look After Our Resources.

Your so right there, thats why, if they were dumped, what a waste of life. Its disgusting.
I have not tasted what they taste like, but I'm all for releasing if its not your cup of tea....
Fishing is all "about" looking after our waters, and its future..As well as enjoyment, and Baking some catches..;)

But the SAD and horrid thing is, you will always get the ones that DONT GIVE a dam..:(

[Freeeedom]

Enough bream bait there for the whole winter! What a waste
Cheers Freeeedom

[Blackened]

G'day

Great post on the recipies there kev

It always amazes me on HOW did pople ever find out that that was the way to cook an animal, or to make it better?

A bit like the story of, what was the guy doing when he discovered cows milk was drinkable and good for you?

Dave

[kingtin]

G'day

Great post on the recipies there kev

It always amazes me on HOW did pople ever find out that that was the way to cook an animal, or to make it better?

A bit like the story of, what was the guy doing when he discovered cows milk was drinkable and good for you?

Dave

The larger question for me Dave, is how come that knowledge became world wide?

Disregard the theories that man invented fire, or that it was a naturally occurring phenomena via lightning, and focus on just how wide the usage was. Just how, in a world where travel and communication was limited, did all the races learn to cook by fire? How was that discovery made universal when mere mortals couldn't communicate as they can now? http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/23/23_11_52.gif

There's something to be said for Von Daniken's theories, despite him coming in for a lot of criticism. Whether you believe or not, he's a bloody good read when the wind's blowing ;D

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erich_von_D%C3%A4niken

kev

[trueblue]

Why Do People Catch An Kill Fish Then Dump Them .although Mac Tuna Are Not High On The Menu Its A Great Waste Of Life. We Should Look After Our Resources. What A Disgrace.

Great waste of bait, cubes or burley!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Greg P]

I can feel no pity for vermin like Mack tuna 8-)8-)8-)8-)8-). Don't worry there is plenty more where that came from.

One of the best books you will ever read regarding mankind's evolution is Guns, Germs and Steel. Amazing stuff in there.

http://www.amazon.com/Guns-Germs-Steel-Fates-Societies/dp/0393317552


Cheers

Greg

[Sea-Dog]

The larger question for me Dave, is how come that knowledge became world wide?

Disregard the theories that man invented fire, or that it was a naturally occurring phenomena via lightning, and focus on just how wide the usage was. Just how, in a world where travel and communication was limited, did all the races learn to cook by fire? How was that discovery made universal when mere mortals couldn't communicate as they can now? http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/23/23_11_52.gif

There's something to be said for Von Daniken's theories, despite him coming in for a lot of criticism. Whether you believe or not, he's a bloody good read when the wind's blowing ;D

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erich_von_D%C3%A4niken

kev

Or..... considering its easter - have a look at the reference book on man's origins. If you follow that story - man could speak from the start, so no probs handing down info about fire.

Whoops... my beliefs are showing ;)

[Chezzy13]

Thought of putting one in the pot..BUT POOOOOOOWEEEEEE:o:o

They were stinky, I say stinky.. http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w123/Chezzy71/emdgust-1.gif

[kingtin]

Or..... considering its easter - have a look at the reference book on man's origins. If you follow that story - man could speak from the start, so no probs handing down info about fire.

Whoops... my beliefs are showing ;)

Yes, but probs talking to others across the world who had a different language and who seemed to be using fire at the same time...........did they all have the same thought/discovery at the same time, or did someone/thing/deity communicate it to them? :-/

kev

[Blackened]

G'day

Kev, maybe the aliens visited all the tribes after their work was done with the pyramids? lol

Seriously though, I don;t think we will never know, but didnt man originate from what we know as africa, when all the continents were joined?

Maybe the discovery was made back then and passed on as common knowledge from generation to generation.

But then again, most discoveries were made due to pure accident, but my history is shocking so i have nothing to back up what i have just said :)

Dave

[Sea-Dog]

Yes, but probs talking to others across the world who had a different language and who seemed to be using fire at the same time...........did they all have the same thought/discovery at the same time, or did someone/thing/deity communicate it to them? :-/

kev

Here's theology 1.01 Use of fire pre-dates differentiation of separate languages at the tower of Babel incident. Each language group dispersed with their own kind, and took all of their accumulated knowlege with them. Prior to that time I believe that all spoke a common language. Genesis 11:1 "And the whole earth was of one language, and of one speech."

Are we treading on dangerous ground here - bringing up belief systems?

I'm not bothered, but others may be :-X

Cheers, Ross (Sea-Dog)

[kingtin]

Here's theology 1.01 Use of fire pre-dates differentiation of separate languages at the tower of Babel incident. Each language group dispersed with their own kind, and took all of their accumulated knowlege with them. Prior to that time I believe that all spoke a common language. Genesis 11:1 "And the whole earth was of one language, and of one speech."

Are we treading on dangerous ground here - bringing up belief systems?

I'm not bothered, but others may be :-X

Cheers, Ross (Sea-Dog)

I didn't see anyone say that they believed, or disbelieved, in anything. ;D

I'm a creationist: http://www.crystalinks.com/creationism.html

I'm just not sure who did the creating ;D

http://www.crystalinks.com/ancientastronauts.html

It would take months to read through this site from it's home page but it certainly gets one to thinking http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/23/23_33_7.gif
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kev

[Sea-Dog]

I didn't see anyone say that they believed, or disbelieved, in anything. ;D

I'm a creationist: http://www.crystalinks.com/creationism.html

I'm just not sure who did the creating ;D

http://www.crystalinks.com/ancientastronauts.html

It would take months to read through this site from it's home page but it certainly gets one to thinking http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/23/23_33_7.gif
http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/23/23_33_7.gif


kev
Hey Kev, I just had a brief look at the first link. Some of the definitions of what a creationist is and what are the various types are, are just plain wrong. His bias shows. My bias also shows in my comments.

So my point is not whether its OK to be biased, but which bias is the best bias to be biased with in the first place. (This comment is not sponsored by a well-known chandlery either ;D)

In other words - what glasses do you look at the world through. I have my glasses, others choose to view things through different lenses.

The second link merely moves the same question one step away.

[disorderly]

What was this thread about again?

[kingtin]

Hey Kev, I just had a brief look at the first link. Some of the definitions of what a creationist is and what are the various types are, are just plain wrong. His bias shows. My bias also shows in my comments.

So my point is not whether its OK to be biased, but which bias is the best bias to be biased with in the first place. (This comment is not sponsored by a well-known chandlery either ;D)

In other words - what glasses do you look at the world through. I have my glasses, others choose to view things through different lenses.

The second link merely moves the same question one step away.

Well I dunno mate :-/ I've been looking at the world through different glasses for years now, and although some are rose coloured, and some plain brown horn rimmed ones, they all have one thing in common.........either I didn't clean 'em properly or some bugger put up a smoke screen in front of 'em ;D

I know the truth's out there.............I just can't seem to find it ;D

There's just too many "unanswereds" in everything I've read but I suppose that's where "faith" comes into the equation. :D

kev

[kingtin]

What was this thread about again?

Buggered if I know............something to do with BCF???........that one seems to stick in my mind a bit http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/23/23_11_55.gif http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/4/4_1_219.gif

kev

[kingtin]

G'day

Kev, maybe the aliens visited all the tribes after their work was done with the pyramids? lol


Dave

Aah! You've read him then? Who did build those buggers? They can't even slide a razor blade between the bricks of the Aztec ones:o And here's me, thousands of years later, with all the technology to hand, and I can't even get a rapala to swim straight ;D

kev

[disorderly]

Aah! You've read him then? Who did build those buggers? They can't even slide a razor blade between the bricks of the Aztec ones:o And here's me, thousands of years later, with all the technology to hand, and I can't even get a rapala to swim straight ;D

kev

kev,it sounds like you have checked out Teotihuacan.Even some of the earlier Mayan stuff at Palenque,Tikal and Copan is fairly amazing considering the tools and resources available at the time.
As I look around from my perspective I see a damaged and perhaps dying world,largely caused by people with strong beliefs (be they religious ,capitalistic,moralistic or whatever) and realize that perhaps we as individuals need to be a little more open to change, sensitive to the needs of others and the planet and less moulded in our beliefs .

cheers scott

[kingtin]

kev,it sounds like you have checked out Teotihuacan.Even some of the earlier Mayan stuff at Palenque,Tikal and Copan is fairly amazing considering the tools and resources available at the time.
As I look around from my perspective I see a damaged and perhaps dying world,largely caused by people with strong beliefs (be they religious ,capitalistic,moralistic or whatever) and realize that perhaps we as individuals need to be a little more open to change, sensitive to the needs of others and the planet and less moulded in our beliefs .

cheers scott

Did a lot of reading when I was younger Scott and yes, I agree with you that we need to be more open minded in our beliefs and also more accepting of others' beliefs and steer clear of dogma.

It's ironic, considering that this thread has gone right off topic (guilty m'lud), ;D that we are now talking about Teotihuacan which collapsed due to drought and climate change and the civil unrest that followed...........have we really learned anything from the past?

kev

[Chezzy13]

What was this thread about again?

LOL...Its ok I know what type of fish they are now..;D;D

[disorderly]

Coming from a farming family,kev, it was quite amazing to stand atop of the pyramids of the sun and moon at Teotihuacan after having seen drawings and mock ups of the lush surroundings of that era.(lush forests and fields of grain crops,vast fish-filled lakes and canal systems for irrigation.Virtually a land of plenty)and see the waste land that inevitably resulted.It's virtually became a desert,as you mentioned through climate change and civil unrest.Mismanagement also likely played a big part.Some think that the arrival of Cortez may have also hastened their demise.
Whatever happened it was not a good idea to join the local soccer team!

cheers Scott

[disorderly]

LOL...Its ok I know what type of fish they are now..;D;D
sorry Chezzy it would appear some of us non-religious types get a bit bored at these times of the yearhttp://www.ausfish.com.au/vforum/../yabbfiles/Templates/Forum/default/embarassed.gif

[Sea-Dog]

As I look around from my perspective I see a damaged and perhaps dying world,largely caused by people with strong beliefs (be they religious ,capitalistic,moralistic or whatever) and realize that perhaps we as individuals need to be a little more open to change, sensitive to the needs of others and the planet and less moulded in our beliefs .

cheers scott

Scott I agree with much of what you say. I can see that you strongly believe in it too.

Strong beliefs have caused both the best and worst things in this world.

I say believe what you want, and do what you want, as long as you dont screw up either people or planet along the way. Also - let others do the same too.

I like the mould I'm in.

Signed, Mouldy ;)

[disorderly]

Scott I agree with much of what you say. I can see that you strongly believe in it too.

Strong beliefs have caused both the best and worst things in this world.

I say believe what you want, and do what you want, as long as you dont screw up either people or planet along the way. Also - let others do the same too.

I like the mould I'm in.

Signed, Mouldy ;)

Hi Mouldy Sea Dog,

I've never been against people and their ideals. I just find it difficult to fathom those hard core fanatics that cant accept that there may be a question mark over what they believe.Hell,everybody's religious belief's cant be right or wrong,can they!!
As you realise I have no real belief in God,my belief is in humanity that sooner or later we will realize we need a unified approach in order to enable the human race and the planet to survive.
Happy easter to you! (despite the fact I don't believe in it).

cheers Scott

[shaman]

21/12/2012

[disorderly]

21/12/2012
So what do the dead people tell you about this date,shaman?

[Sea-Dog]

I think this thread is dying a slow and painful death - Let it go peacefully.

So what sort of fish was it in the end? I've forgotten.

This was originally a question about a fish wasn't it? ::)

[disorderly]

I think this thread is dying a slow and painful death - Let it go peacefully.

So what sort of fish was it in the end? I've forgotten.

This was originally a question about a fish wasn't it? ::)

Think so.

Maybe we were talking about a Sole.

[Chezzy13]

Mactuna..Was the fish :D... Never tasted it, but seems people dont thinks its good eating, so I might Pass on it lol..:P ;D
No more have turned up, yet..

[kingtin]

So what do the dead people tell you about this date,shaman?

That us live folk will swop places with 'em? http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/36/36_1_15.gif

That we get a really close look at a bloody big asteroid? http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/36/36_28_2.gif

That it's the end of the world as we know it............ie............it actually rains for longer than 3 minutes in Qld http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/28/28_2_4v.gif



The more likely scenario is that I get to catch something other than vermin............now that would be the end of the world as I know it! http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/23/23_11_59.gif

kev

[sambos]

Great waste of bait, cubes or burley!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

i agree mate at least it would not be wasted

[szopen]

Thank's for the cooking link Kev.

With my first big ray caught on the weekend I have joined the ranks of verminators.

As per the fire use question a quick goole uncovered this:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/3557077.stm

So it looks like fire came with the first humans out of Africa.